The other point that is well made is that with enough drives you will
max out the PCI bus before you max out the drives.  64-bit 66Mhz can
do about 400MB/sec, which can be acheived by two 3 drive stripes (6
drive in RAID 10).  A true PCI-X card can do better, but can your
controller?  Remember, U320 is only 320MB/channel...

Alex Turner
NetEconomist

On 8/16/05, Anjan Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, everyone. I got some excellent replies, including some long 
> explanations. Appreciate the time you guys took out for the responses.
> 
> The gist of it i take, is to use RAID10. I have 400MB+ of write cache on the 
> controller(s), that the RAID5 LUN(s) could benefit from by filling it up and 
> writing out the complete stripe, but come to think of it, it's shared among 
> the two Storage Processors, all the LUNs, not just the ones holding the 
> pg_xlog directory. The other thing (with Clariion) is the write cache 
> mirroring. Write isn't signalled complete to the host until the cache content 
> is mirrored across the other SP (and vice-versa), which is a good thing, but 
> this operation could potentially become a bottleneck with very high load on 
> the SPs.
> 
> Also, one would have to fully trust the controller/manufacturer's claim on 
> signalling the write completion. And, performance is a priority over the 
> drive space lost in RAID10 for me.
> 
> I can use 4 drives instead of 6.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anjan
> 
>         t-----Original Message-----
>         From: Gregory S. Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Sent: Tue 8/16/2005 6:22 PM
>         To: Anjan Dave; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>         Cc:
>         Subject: RE: [PERFORM] choosing RAID level for xlogs
> 
> 
> 
>         I would be very cautious about ever using RAID5, despite 
> manufacturers' claims to the contrary. The link below is authored by a very 
> knowledgable fellow whose posts I know (and trust) from Informix land.
> 
>         <http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/RAID5_versus_RAID10.txt>
> 
>         Greg Williamson
>         DBA
>         GlobeXplorer LLC
> 
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Anjan Dave
>         Sent:   Mon 8/15/2005 1:35 PM
>         To:     pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
>         Cc:
>         Subject:        [PERFORM] choosing RAID level for xlogs
>         Hi,
> 
> 
> 
>         One simple question. For 125 or more checkpoint segments
>         (checkpoint_timeout is 600 seconds, shared_buffers are at 21760 or
>         170MB) on a very busy database, what is more suitable, a separate 6 
> disk
>         RAID5 volume, or a RAID10 volume? Databases will be on separate
>         spindles. Disks are 36GB 15KRPM, 2Gb Fiber Channel. Performance is
>         paramount, but I don't want to use RAID0.
> 
> 
> 
>         PG7.4.7 on RHAS 4.0
> 
> 
> 
>         I can provide more info if needed.
> 
> 
> 
>         Appreciate some recommendations!
> 
> 
> 
>         Thanks,
> 
>         Anjan
> 
> 
> 
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