We use this memory in all our servers (well - the 512 sticks).  0
problems to date:


$163 for 1GB.

This stuff is probably better than the Samsung RAM dell is selling you
for 3 times the price.


On 11/10/05, Ron Peacetree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My original post did not take into account VAT, I apologize for that 
> oversight.
> However, unless you are naive, or made of gold, or have some sort of 
> "special" relationship that requires you to, _NE VER_ buy RAM from your 
> computer HW OEM.  For at least two decades it's been a provable fact that 
> OEMs like DEC, Sun, HP, Compaq, Dell, etc, etc charge far more per GB for the 
> RAM they sell.  Same goes for HDs.  Buy your memory and HDs direct from 
> reputable manufacturers, you'll get at least the same quality and pay 
> considerably less.
> Your Dell example is evidence that supports my point.  As of this writing, 
> decent RAM should cost $75-$150 pr GB (not including VAT ;-) ).   Don't let 
> yourself be conned into paying more.
> I'm talking about decent RAM from reputable direct suppliers like Corsair and 
> Kingston (_not_ their Value RAM, the actual Kingston branded stuff), OCZ, 
> etc.  Such companies sell via multiple channels, including repuatble websites 
> like dealtime.com, pricewatch.com, newegg.com, etc, etc.
> You are quite correct that there's poor quality junk out there.  I was not 
> talking about it, only reasonable quality components.
> Ron
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt De Grave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Nov 10, 2005 5:40 AM
> To: Ron Peacetree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Charlie Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Sort performance on large tables
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Ron Peacetree wrote:
> > At this writing, 4 1GB DIMMs (4GB) should set you back ~$300 or less.
> > 4 2GB DIMMs (8GB) should cost ~$600. As of now, very few mainboards
> > support 4GB DIMMs and I doubt the D3000 has such a mainboard.  If you
> > can use them, 4 4GB DIMMs (16GB) will currently set you back
> > ~$1600-$2400.
> Sorry, but every time again I see unrealistic memory prices quoted when
> the buy-more-memory argument passes by.
> What kind of memory are you buying for your servers?  Non-ECC no-name
> memory that doesn't even pass a one-hour memtest86 for 20% of the items
> you buy?
> Just checked at Dell's web page: adding 4 1GB DIMMs to a PowerEdge 2850
> sets you back _1280 EURO_ excluding VAT.  And that's after they already
> charged you 140 euro for replacing the obsolete standard 4 512MB DIMMs
> with the same capacity in 1GB DIMMs. So the 4GB upgrade actually costs
> 1420 euro plus VAT, which is quite a bit more than $300.
> Okay, few people will happily buy at those prices.  You can get the
> exact same goods much cheaper elsewhere, but it'll still cost you way
> more than the number you gave, plus you'll have to drive to the server's
> location, open up the box yourself, and risk incompatibilities and
> support problems if there's ever something wrong with that memory.
> Disclaimers:
> I know that you're talking about a desktop in this particular case.
> I wouldn't see a need for ECC in a development box either.
> I know a Dell hasn't been the smartest choice for a database box lately
> (but politics...).
> kurt.
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