Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:06:54 -0800
Craig James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We're upgrading to a medium-sized server, a Dell PowerEdge 2950,
dual-quad CPU's and 8 GB memory.  This box can hold at most 8 disks
(10K SCSI 2.5" 146 GB drives) and has Dell's Perc 6/i RAID controller.

I'm thinking of this:

  6 disks  RAID 1+0  Postgres data
  1 disk   WAL
  1 disk   Linux

I've often seen RAID 1 recommended for the WAL.  Is that strictly for
reliability, or is there a performance advantage to RAID 1 for the
WAL?

It seems to me separating the OS and WAL on two disks is better than
making a single RAID 1 and sharing it, from a performance point of
view.

This scares me... You lose WAL you are a goner. Combine your OS and
WAL into a RAID 1.

Right, I do understand that, but reliability is not a top priority in this 
system.  The database will be replicated, and can be reproduced from the raw 
data.  It's not an accounting system, it finds scientific results.  That's not 
to say I *won't* take your advice, we may in fact combine the OS and WAL on one 
disk.  Reliability is a good thing, but I need to know all of the tradeoffs, so 
that I can weigh performance, reliability, and cost and make the right choice.

So my question still stands: From a strictly performance point of view, would 
it be better to separate the OS and the WAL onto two disks?  Is there any 
performance advantage to RAID 1?  My understanding is that RAID 1 can give 2x 
seek performance during read, but no advantage during write.  For the WAL, it 
seems to me that RAID 1 has no performance benefits, so separating the WAL and 
OS seems like a peformance advantage.

Another option would be:

 4 disks   RAID 1+0  Postgres data
 2 disks   RAID 1    WAL
 1 disk    Linux
 1 disk    spare

This would give us reliability, but I think the performance would be 
considerably worse, since the primary Postgres data would come from 4 disks 
instead of six.

I guess we could also consider:

 4 disks   RAID 1+0  Postgres data
 4 disks   RAID 1+0  WAL and Linux

Or even

 8 disks   RAID 1+0  Everything

This is a dedicated system and does nothing but Apache/Postgres, so the OS 
should get very little traffic.  But if that's the case, I guess you could 
argue that your suggestion of combining OS and WAL on a 2-disk RAID 1 would be 
the way to go, since the OS activity wouldn't affect the WAL very much.

I suppose the thing to do is get the system, and run bonnie on various 
configurations.  I've never run bonnie before -- can I get some useful results 
without a huge learning curve?

Thanks,
Craig

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