On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicholson, Brad (Toronto, ON, CA) <
bnichol...@hp.com> wrote:

> >From: pgsql-performance-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:
> pgsql-performance-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Gendler
> >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:47 PM
> >To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
> >Subject: [PERFORM] backups blocking everything
> >
> >I've got a large mixed-used database, with the data warehouse side of
> things consisting of several tables at hundreds of millions of rows, plus a
> number of tables with tens of >millions.  There is partitioning, but as the
> volume of data has risen, individual partitions have gotten quite large.
>  Hardware is 2x4 core 2.0Ghz Xeon processors, 176GB of RAM, 4 drives in
> >raid 10 for WAL logs and 16 or 20 spindles for data, also in RAID 10.
>  Total database size is currently 399GB - via pg_database_size().  It's also
> worth noting that we switched from 8.4 to >9.0.4 only about a month ago, and
> we were not seeing this problem on 8.4.x.  The database is growing, but not
> at some kind of exponential rate. full backup, compressed, on the old
> hardware >was 6.3GB and took about 1:45:00 to be written.  Recent backups
> are 8.3GB and taking 3 or 4 hours.  We were not seeing al queries stall out
> during the backups on 8.4, so far as I am aware.
> >
> >The time it takes for pg_dump to run has grown from 1 hour to 3 and even 4
> hours over the last 6 months, with more than half of that increase occurring
> since we upgrade to 9.0.x.  In the >last several weeks (possibly since the
> upgrade to 9.0.4), we are seeing all connections getting used up (our main
> apps use connection pools, but monitoring and some utilities are making
> >direct connections for each query, and some of them don't check for the
> prior query to complete before sending another, which slowly eats up
> available connections).  Even the connection >pool apps cease functioning
> during the backup, however, as all of the connections wind up in parse
> waiting state.  I also see lots of sockets in close wait state for what
> seems to be an >indefinite period while the backup is running and all
> connections are used up.  I assume all of this is the result of pg_dump
> starting a transaction or otherwise blocking other access.  I >can get
> everything using a pool, that's not a huge problem to solve, but that won't
> fix the fundamental problem of no queries being able to finish while the
> backup is happening.
>
> What is the I/O utilization like during the dump?  I've seen this situation
> in the past and it was caused be excessively bloated tables causing I/O
> starvation while they are getting dumped.
>

There are definitely no bloated tables.  The large tables are all
insert-only, and old data is aggregated up and then removed by dropping
whole partitions.  There should be no bloat whatsoever.  The OLTP side of
things is pretty minimal, and I can pg_dump those schemas in seconds, so
they aren't the problem, either.  I don't know what the I/O utilization is
during the dump, offhand. I'll be doing a more thorough investigation
tonight, though I suppose I could go look at the monitoring graphs if I
weren't in the middle of 6 other things at the moment.  the joys of startup
life.

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