If you are inserting a lot of data into the same table, table extension locks 
are a problem, and will be extended in only 8k increments which if you have a 
lot of clients hitting/expanding the same table you are going to have a lot of 
overhead.

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-performance-ow...@postgresql.org 
[mailto:pgsql-performance-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Janes
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:26 PM
To: Jon Nelson
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] postgres 8.4, COPY, and high concurrency

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Jon Nelson <jnelson+pg...@jamponi.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Jeff Janes <jeff.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> While the WAL is suppressed for the table inserts, it is not 
>> suppressed for the index inserts, and the index WAL traffic is enough 
>> to lead to contention.
>
> Aha!
>
>> I don't know why that is the case, it seems like the same method that 
>> allows us to bypass WAL for the table would work for the indices as 
>> well.  Maybe it is just that no one bothered to implement it.  After 
>> all, building the index after the copy will be even more efficient 
>> than building it before but by-passing WAL.
>
>> But it does seem like the docs could at least be clarified here.
>
> In general, then, would it be safe to say that concurrent (parallel) 
> index creation may be a source of significant WAL contention?

No, that shouldn't lead to WAL contention.  The creation of an index on an 
already-populated table bypasses most WAL when you are not using archiving.  It 
is the maintenance of an already existing index that generates WAL.


"begin; truncate; copy; create index" generates little WAL.

"begin; truncate; create index; copy" generates a lot of WAL, and is slower for 
other reason as well.

Cheers,

Jeff


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