Michael Fuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 04:56:11PM -0700, chester c young wrote: >> in php (for example) it's frequently nice to get the structure of a >> table without any data,
> Have you considered "SELECT * FROM mytable LIMIT 0"? Indeed. > I see the same behavior in the latest 8.1beta code. Maybe one of > the developers will comment on whether optimizing that is a simple > change, a difficult change, not worth changing because few people > find a use for it, or a behavior that can't be changed because of > something we're not considering. Not worth changing --- why should we expend cycles (even if it only takes a few, which isn't clear to me offhand) on every join query, to detect what's simply a brain-dead way of finding out table structure? I can't think of any realistic scenarios for a constant-false join clause. The relevant bit of code is in initsplan.c: /* * If the clause is variable-free, we force it to be evaluated at its * original syntactic level. Note that this should not happen for * top-level clauses, because query_planner() special-cases them. But it * will happen for variable-free JOIN/ON clauses. We don't have to be * real smart about such a case, we just have to be correct. */ if (bms_is_empty(relids)) relids = qualscope; Possibly you could get the planner to generate a gating Result node for such a case, the way it does for constant-false top level WHERE clauses, but I really doubt it's worth any extra cycles at all to make this happen. The proposed example is quite unconvincing ... why would anyone want to depend on the existence of a "dual" table rather than LIMIT 0? regards, tom lane ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly