Also, the current VR3 developer tools are not binary compatible. Every
application must either be recompiled or relinked to new libraries for each
library change. It is possible if you distribute object files instead of
binaries.

I'm not saying that your database system isn't good. It's just that the
development environments are so varied that binary releases aren't going to
be widely used. For example, the VR3 and the Helio both have a MIPS
processor and the same port of the Linux kernel. But they use different
ABI's, so they aren't binary compatible.

-Sean

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Micah Dowty
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Pgui-devel] database for PIM application
>
>
> I agree. It sounds like a great database, but there are both
> practical and philosophical reasons not to use this in PicoGUI.
>
> There are other platforms we need PicoGUI to run on besides
> uClinux/m68k and linux/i386. Just to name the ones I can think of
> at the moment:
>  - Darwin/PowerPC
>  - linux/PowerPC
>  - linux/mips
>  - uClinux/ARM
>  - linux/StrongARM
>  - win32/i386
>
> Releasing binaries for all these platforms (and more) would be
> unmanageable. With source code, you release one package that will
> compile anywhere.
>
> It's looking like this PIM database is going to be an important
> part of PicoGUI's core applications. Since my goal in developing
> PicoGUI is an open source embedded GUI system, this would be
> completely against our philosophy. Using a proprietary database
> would be similar to the whole KDE/Qt issue. Even with access to
> the source to Qt for Linux this licensing issue was so important
> to the Free Software purists that they started a competing
> desktop environment, GNOME.
>
> On Mon, 13 August 2001, John Utz wrote:
>
> >
> > well, this sounds very nice, but i am utterly clueless how this
> would help
> > me on my mips based helio.
> >
> > or, for that matter, for anybody that has a platform that your software
> > isnt compiled for.
> >
> > *and*
> >
> > that means that somebody would still have to do the work to
> come up with a
> > solution for a platform that you dont support.
> >
> > so that tells me that it would be silly to spend much time working with
> > your proprietary db.
> >
> > ahh. i love open source!
> >
> > just my us$0.02
> >
> > johnu
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Frederic Gobry wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Concerning the discussion that occured about PIM application, I would
> > > like to let you know that we are working at SMARTDATA on an embedded
> > > database that has exactly this aim. Some interesting characteristics
> > > are :
> > >
> > >     - storage on flash
> > >     - transaction support
> > >     - client/server
> > >     - facility for the definition of "links" between items of
> > >       different types (to enable the incorporation of notes in
> > >       appointments,...)
> > >     - versioning: if a record is corrupted, the database can
> > >       fallback on a previous version.
> > >
> > > We had the following guidelines in mind while developping this
> > > application :
> > >
> > >     - robustness
> > >     - clean separation between data and applications
> > >     - small footprint
> > >
> > > A first release should be made available in a month or two in the form
> > > of a binary executable (the server) and a client library provided as
> > > sources, for dragonball/uClinux and intel/linux platforms. I'll let
> > > you know when it's ready...
> > >
> > > Fr�d�ric
> > >
> > >
> >
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