On Jun 9, 2013, at 9:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> Ok, cool.
> 
> Now, would you leave the changes chunk format?

yes and it is orthogonal. Even if I want a better chunk format. 

We want a model for changes and a model for source code. And two separated 
tools. 

> 
> Example: in Amber, one can take such a thing and paste it in the workspace 
> and file it in. 
> This helps with importing code from elsewhere.
> 
> And also with other Smalltalks... 
> http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~sl/teaching/00_01/Delfin_EC/Overviews/ChunkFileFormat.htm
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Phil
> 
> Martin (one of the guy behind fuel) is working on a **good** changes 
> management because
> we do not like all the changes code which is old and sometimes brittle. We 
> will have a look at
> your issues and see what we can do. But what is sure is that we are working 
> on replacing
> all the changeset, recovery and all the rest :).
> 
> Stef
> 
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 8:07 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The interesting bit is that the crash I got occured **as I was saving to 
>> STH**...
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10859#78993
>> 
>> Then Cami told me to drag & drop my .changes file inside my image to recover 
>> the changes.
>> 
>> Since was I was doing was not coding but commenting, comments were lost (and 
>> getting into a deadly loop as well - 
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10860#78992)
>> 
>> Then looking at the Change fileIn, I noticed that thing about comments not 
>> being taken into account: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10861#78994
>> 
>> So, I try to work the advertised way, I guess.
>> 
>> But things is that a lot of things have the power to destroy my image it 
>> seems.
>> That's why I do have a ton of large files in my working folder named like 
>> xxxx-YYYYMMDD-HHMM.image|changes
>> 
>> Still, I got burned.
>> 
>> As of the old code hard to understand, sure, I got lost :-) If I would 
>> understand what to do, instead of bugging you I'd be submitting a slice.
>> 
>> Let's end this thread :-)
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> > Look, I got the point about mixing up issues.
>> >
>> > Thanks for bother to reply BTW, it is appreciated.
>> >
>> 
>> As for
>> 
>> 10861 System not filing in class comments from changes file.
>>         
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10861/System-not-filing-in-class-comments-from-changes-file
>> 
>> yes, this seems to be not filing in class comment from the recent changes.
>> 
>> I think that nobody complained because it is not used that often and mostly 
>> with relatively small changes
>> People save on SmalltalkHub very often, or saving the image before doing 
>> something that can destroy it.
>> 
>> And comments tend to be written at anther times then code that has the power 
>> to destroy you image.
>> 
>> Yes, we should fix it. And yes, the code related to all this is quite 
>> old-style smalltalk that is hard to understand.
>> 
>>         Marcus
>> 
> 
> 

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