Am 27.06.2013 um 22:33 schrieb "[email protected]" <[email protected]>:

> Object Spaces with dedicated GC and possibly dedicated cpu looks like a 
> better idea than a flat 64bit VM and OE to me.
> 
Can you explain what you mean? I cannot see how object spaces can solve the 
problem. The thing you describe sounds for me is just like starting a second 
image which is one way to use more than 4GB of RAM.

Norbert
> Le 27 juin 2013 21:43, "Clément Bera" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 2013/6/27 kilon <[email protected]>
>>> Just for the notice, because I stirred up the whole discussion about 64 bit
>>> pharo.
>>> 
>>> To my knowledge the whole point of having a 64 bit app is that so that app
>>> can access more than 4 GBs of Ram. Is that the case or I have no clue what I
>>> am talking about ?
>> 
>> Yeah actually the goal is to allow the user to work on Pharo without 
>> installing 32bits lib and to be able to call 64 bits external libraries 
>> instead of 32 bits ones.
>>  
>>> 
>>> I have read that already Pharo VM has some restrictions on how much ram an
>>> image can use. Obviously even for todays standard 4GBs for a single app is a
>>> bit excessive but if pharo apps continue to grow in complexity and we start
>>> to venture in areas of demanding ram needs , then it wont be hard to brake
>>> that 4GB barrier.
>> 
>> You are right, we don't care about the RAM size, even language as Java does 
>> not have a VM with a GC supporting more that much of RAM.
>>  
>>> 
>>> In any case maybe before you invest so much effort you must clear up what
>>> the real benefits would be for us the users of pharo if pharo goes 64 bit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Clément Béra
>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
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