Snapshotcello is now in ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20. Once
it will be tested in Pharo 3.0, it will be published in there, too.

Doru


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

> Hi Torsten,
>
> Thanks for the rant :)
>
> It did not put it as a release yet, because I still wanted people to play
> with it. Hence the suggested "loadDevelopment".
>
> As for Moose not being in the configuration browser, it is precisely
> because we could not really release it until now in a reliable fashion that
> you do not find it there :). Snapshotcello is a little tool to help us
> bootstrap precisely around this problem.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann <asta...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Tudor wrote:
>> >You can get the code at:
>> >Gofer new
>> >     smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello';
>> >     package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello';
>> >     load.
>> >(Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello) loadDevelopment
>>
>> Sorry about the rant in advance (which is more general and not only
>> specific to snapshotcello), but:
>>
>> Next time someone wants this (or another) nice little Pharo tool:
>>
>>  - one has to remember this load script or have to find the announcement
>> mail again
>>  - one has to a lot of typing the expression or copying to a workspace to
>> load it.
>>
>> Just with the posted load script he does dont know if Pharo 1.4, 2.0 or
>> 3.0 was used to develop it,
>> so how does he know the Pharo version to use it without failures? A pharo
>> version where it is not broken.
>> Maybe the user is still using Pharo 2.0 but maybe the tool requires at
>> least Pharo 3.0 ...
>>
>> What about a new user who starts tomorrow with Pharo and never read this
>> announcement.
>> Since he entered the mailinglist very late he missed the mail with the
>> script.
>> How can he now about this super cool package? Why cant it be more
>> accessible?
>>
>> I propose: PLEASE define a #stable for the working versions and place an
>> additional copy in:
>>
>>  - "ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20"             (Pharo
>> 2.0) or
>>  - "http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30/main"; (Pharo 3.0)
>>
>> when you know it runs in the according pharo version. It will then appear
>> in the config browser.
>>
>> If it is not in the config browser of the current pharo version for easy
>> loading
>> then it does not really exist.  ;)
>> It only exists for the people who read about it in the mailinglist. Think
>> of a first
>> time user who downloads Pharo 2.0. He may never stumble over the load
>> script or
>> the tool in Smalltalkhub.
>>
>> I know: it may not yet be the best mechanism to provide packages to users
>> (we need more infos
>> on the configs, hence catalog and automatic verification in the future) -
>> but still it
>> is better than the "load scripts" and possible confusion.
>>
>> So please CARE ABOUT YOUR USERS and make your packages available like
>> this so it can
>> be easily accessible and loadable right from the according image!
>>
>> Same for Roassal, Moose, ... and all the nice packages that now appear in
>> the
>> Pharo universe...
>>
>> Thanks
>> T.
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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>



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