Just to be clear, I completely agree that Pharo should move forward without any limitations and restrictions.
Its just that when I first read the history of smalltalk I came to conclusion that like lisp , smalltalk is a freeform language , meaning that standardization meant much less for it than in other languages. Since Alan Kay was deeply inspired from lisp ( according to his own saying) a language that can change its own syntax is kinda difficult to see its as a rigid language that should obey to a set of rules. I dont know if it was Ingalis or Alan Kay that said that they created smalltalk not for it to remain in the state it was but to be the basic of new languages. So all this talk about ANSI standard smalltalk, sounds kinda weird to me. Sure I can see the benefits of standardization but that part was never crucial to smalltalk or lisp since the days they were created. And frankly this part that I love the most about smalltalk and lisp. So for me Pharo is 100% smalltalk and smalltalks that try to standardize things less than 100% ;) So I certainly agree with your blog post spirit. About moose 4.8 great work guys, I am amazed how deep moose is , and the horde of tools you have created for pharo. I recently took a deep look at it and it certainly moves code visualisation forward. I will love to see more video tutorials that show the practical advantages to coders like me that are not used to such kind of tools. Keep up the great. philippeback wrote > Smalltalk inspired - standing on the shoulders of giants. > > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Tudor Girba < > tudor@ > > wrote: > >> Yeah, I used to work with Smalltalk quite a lot. >> >> Now, I only work with Pharo, and I do not miss Smalltalk at all :) >> >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Damien Cassou < > damien.cassou@ > >wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>> < > serge.stinckwich@ > > wrote: >>> > Ouaa, there is still PL/1 on the earth ? >>> >>> >>> yes! and Smalltalk too :-) >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>> losing enthusiasm." >>> Winston Churchill >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ann-moose-4-8-tp4707988p4708066.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.