I am anothet retarded that loves whitespaces :)
And as a proper retarded I love python too.


Igor Stasenko wrote
> On 15 October 2013 18:36, Jimmie Houchin <

> jlhouchin@

> > wrote:
> 
>>  On 10/15/2013 11:06 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>
>>  *From: *Eliot Miranda <

> eliot.miranda@

> >
>>
>>
>>
>>> Progress is possible,
>>
>>
>>  Indeed it is.  And moving from proportional to mono-spaced fonts is not
>> progress, it is regress.
>>
>>
>>> perfection was not achieved in 81 or in 95.
>>>
>>
>>  I didn't say it was.  I said that systems designed with a coherent
>> aesthetics and philosophy are more coherent, powerful and comprehensible
>> than those which are not.
>>
>>
>>  yes, they are, I agree with that, and that's what we are trying to
>> achieve... advancing one small step at a time, because we cannot doit all
>> together, sadly.
>> What I do not see is how proportional fonts fits more with a pharo
>> coherence (which in my pov does not exists today) than a monospaced one.
>>
>>
>> But the change is away from proportional to monospace. I think the sale
>> must be made as to what does that actually buy us. How does this improve
>> our experience, pharo coherence?
>>
>> It seems that many of us here don't believe that it provides that
>> coherence of UI/UX that your hoping to move us towards.
>>
>> So when changing from what we have, it seems that it needs to
>> demonstrated
>> that the change is for the better and not neutral or worse.
>>
>> I personally don't buy the it is less foreign to non-Smalltalkers
>> argument. non-Smalltalkers would just move their distaste of Smalltalk
>> somewhere else. Why do we have to use the image? Why can't I use Emacs,
>> vim, Eclipse? Its all very personal and sometimes very visceral.
>>
>> I have seen some visceral comments from Igor regarding Python. I could
>> make some from the C++ I've been looking at.
>>
>>
> ah.. python. yes, i hate their choice of using white space as part of
> language syntax.
> That is really retarded choice.
> And actually the roots of my disdain of it is same why i prefer
> proportional fonts:
> i like text, where white space is variable and not fixed, and used to make
> the text more readable,
> and ergonomically fit within its boundaries (like in newspaper column).
> If for people it would be easier to read text printed with monospaced
> font,
> then it would be like that
> long before first computer display appear in the world.
> Therefore, the whole idea that monospaced font is more readable is moot.
> 
> I could justify such choice if we would have certain technical limitations
> (of the past), which forcing us to use
> less memory and text terminals.. but we're not..
> 
> We need to be the best open source Smalltalk-like experience. And not be
>> constrained to other languages/editors/environments constraints and views
>> on the world.
>>
>> So those who choose to advocate for a change. Advocate. Make the sale.
>> Or else lets not make the change.
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.





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