Especially when nobody is running wild and screaming. If this would be case you 
would hear me from ghent ;D . 
I'm quite good at that but I decided that I'm in positive energy mode since a 
long time and that pushy people do not touch me anymore.
I'm like Luffy , elastic :)

Stef


> Everybody does a lot of work for Pharo, visible and invisible.
> We are complementary and we need each other - so we have to work together.
> 
> On 23 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Camillo Bruni <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 2013-10-23, at 16:06, Camillo Bruni <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 2013-10-23, at 13:48, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-10-22, at 10:44, Camillo Bruni <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> For retracting files you need access to files.pharo.org.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is what should be written in the readme.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW have you tried that you actually have access to the machine?
>>>>>> Because I remember that it didn't work for you nor Esteban...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So stef, did you check that you can actually edit the file?
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot access it but I least I know that I should not look for it.
>>>> And next time if there is a problem I just stop integrated and continue 
>>>> hacking on my cool stuff and look smart.
>>> 
>>> Why can't you access it?
>>> What do you want instead?
>>> How do we avoid this situation in the future? (happened already before a 
>>> couple of times)
>> 
>> Just to get something straight here:
>> 
>> You have hardly something to complain... What you see is the tip of the 
>> iceberg.
>> I spend roughly 1-2 hours per week maintaining all the jenkins instances 
>> with all
>> the slaves and all the jobs that run (and there is Christoph to, regularly 
>> fixing
>> and tweaking things all around).
>> 
>> Now running around wild and screaming that everything does not work and is 
>> not
>> documented is highly demotivating. Marcus and Esteban work on it on a daily 
>> basis.
>> If maintaining jenkins were so much fun, you would do it, but you don't. 
>> 
>> 
>> So enjoy, and focus on the things you are truly great at: motivating people 
>> for a better pharo!
> 
> 


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