On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Why not generating markdown code from pier code?
>> If the whole problem is exposure on the web. Someone has considered pdf2html 
>> or latex2html?
> 
> I did => suicidal tendencies.
> The results looks like shit.
> 
> I did not try pdf2html.
> 
> Now pier is a compromise so that normal people can write chapter without 
> being a latex freaks like us.
> 
> Stef

That’s also the thing, md is designed in a (shitty) way so one does not have to 
“learn” it since it’s is “close” 
to what one will write in an email

Ben

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> 
>> Maybe my question is naive, I do not know.
>> 
>> On some point, i have tried to generate the roassal documentation from the 
>> Roassal Help, but it makes the maintenance loop heavy: If I want to fix 
>> something in the text, I had to edit the Help in Pharo, generating the 
>> document, compiling into .pdf. Quite heavy it was. At the end, I only worked 
>> on the .tex files.
>> 
>> Alexandre
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>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Benjamin <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> It was a real question, and it feels like you overreacted the answer …
>>>> 
>>>> To me, markdown or pier is a new syntax to learn so I am asking …
>>>> To me, doing Pier because you do or because you said to is no really an 
>>>> argument.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I am open to a real answer but I also see that markdown is integrated 
>>>> to a lot of tools (github and jekylls by examples)
>>>> and that a lot of people knows about markdown.
>>>> 
>>>> This was a real question, not a troll …
>>> 
>>> I like .md as well and yes, the github integration makes it compelling.
>>> 
>>> But one objective argument against Markdown and in favour of Pier is that 
>>> the former has no good parser and/or document model and and the latter does 
>>> have both, in Pharo. That means that we can write all sorts of tools 
>>> ourselves and get things finished, as was proven with the books.
>>> 
>>> There simply isn’t any definitive, unambiguous Markdown syntax (the github 
>>> variant is only one version).
>>> 
>>>> Ben
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:22, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> do you really think that I insist of using pier syntax because
>>>>>   A- I want to lose my time
>>>>>   B- this is for my ego?
>>>>>   C- because I'm funny
>>>>>   D- ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> No seriously?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to get an answer read the thread that yuri raised a while ago.
>>>>> Because we already discussed discussed and discussed it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will not write any book in markdown. Now you can try and we see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stef
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stef, what is the advantages of writing it in Pier compared to markdown ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ben
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