Yes! Yesterday evening I watched the Wolfram video. I think we can produce Pharo-based video as impressive as what this strange guy did.
Alexandre On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:34 AM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[email protected]> > wrote: > Wow!!!!! > > Screenshots are (too) small? > > They are actually in full resolution, but the theme makes them fit the > column, and the blog engine does not offer an enlarge preview :(. You can > however, simply zoom the page. > > Hey people! Use the like button and enter a comment :-) > > We should be able to do the same thing for DBPedia. > > Exactly. I would love to get some case studies in this direction. The idea of > the case study would be not to present the end picture (if it's a > visualization) but the way to get to it. For example, in the Postgres video, > the final picture is not particularly exciting, but the speed with which you > can get to it once you know the platform is :). > > Cheers, > Doru > > > Alexandre > > > On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks for the interest. > > > > I added now a new blog post in which I detail an investigation scenario of > > a Postgres DB with the GTInspector: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-with-the-gtinspector/ > > > > The post includes a video that kind of gets you through the most important > > parts: > > - use the playground > > - query the DB and preview the results through dedicated presentations > > - navigate through objects and code to learn the API > > - build a visualization in place and continue exploration > > - extend the inspector with a dedicated presentation > > > > Please let me know what you think. > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:48 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Doru, > > > > Where to look on your blog for a view on the essentials of this? I see > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-open-faster-with-gtinspector/ > > for example. A video? > > > > I look at the blog and vids but it is a bit hard to find a basic demo to > > grasp things. > > > > TIA > > Phil > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > > I hope not. What are we trying to optimize? > > > > If you look closely at the GT work, you might notice that it is not just a > > tool, it's a whole new philosophy for coding. The EyeInspector picked only > > one aspect out of a whole. > > > > One high goal is to change programming such that the inspector + debugger > > to capture most of the coding experience. This is what live means. Right > > now, in the default Pharo we only code small things in the debugger and > > nothing in the inspector. We work on the idea of a moldable IDE that will > > change all that. > > > > Let's look at some facts. Right now, in my image I have 75 different > > extensions for GTInspector. And the total amount of lines of code has > > barely passed 1000 LOC (including all utility code). These are not just > > independent views, but they are combinable. The amount of use cases > > supported span a wide range: querying source code, visualizing performance, > > navigating file system, querying DB, and more (read the posts from > > humane-assessment.com for hints in this direction). > > > > We programmed most of these extensions from within the inspector both > > because it's fun and because it's significantly more productive. And I am > > not the only one. This power is not serendipity, it's by design. And we > > only started to untap this potential. > > > > There is still a long way for the concept of inspector and I believe there > > is a large payoff in it, too. > > > > Optimizing for a small thing now should not be the way to go :) > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well I would hope that some kind of convergence would be possible in the > > future. Maybe some kind of abstract meta description like magritte, that > > different tools can use. > > > > On 07 Mar 2014, at 16:43, Yuriy Tymchuk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > > > > This day I’ve attended Moose dojo and I’m pretty impressed with the > > > possibilities of GTInspector. The one thing that I’ve noticed is that > > > both GTInspactor and EyeInspector support custom inspections for objects. > > > I’m wandering if we can come up with a common protocol to give an object > > > specific infector view, and not develop a separate thing for each > > > inspector. > > > > > > Uko > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
