>From what I've seen of that convention in Ruby, it gets misused. They
also have the convention of ending selectors with a question mark for
predicates, which works quite well (besides the fact that it's
hardcoded in the language… you can't do this, for instance, because
only one of ? or ! can end the selector

def wtf??!
    return 42
end

As for the ! indicating side-effects, there are methods with side
effects that don't end in !, and some that don't really that have it.
In the end, the meaning gets diluted, IMHO. In Smalltalk, we have
method categories, I'd like to exploit them more than just see them in
the browser. If we could use them as tags instead of as a partition,
that would be more flexible too


On 22 June 2014 19:23, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> There was a previous thread [1] that involved discussion of the naming
>> convention for methods doing "dangerous" in-place mutatation - e.g.
>> sort/sorted,  reverse/reversed -  and even though I now know there is such a
>> naming convention, its hard to keep track of which is which.
>
>
>> Now today I happened to be looking for the first time at some Ruby code
>> and came across their naming convention for "dangerous" methods of having a
>> trailing exclamation mark - e.g. sort/sort!, reverse/reverse! - which is
>> REALLY intuitive.  How extreme is it to wonder if Pharo might some day be
>> able to support such a convention?
>
> You know we cannot change the world in one day. So I like this convention
> but did you measure how much work it would mean
> to follow it.
>
> What would be good is
>     to have systematically method comments
>     to build tools to give some hints and to slowly make sure that we follow
> our convention.
>     analyse what is reasonable to do.
>
> Stef
>
>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://forum.world.st/11635-Race-condition-in-SequenceableCollection-gt-gt-shuffle-td4709752.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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