I like your slice Sven. The code is easier to read now in OrderedCollection and my optimizer can perform better.
Thanks :) 2014-09-10 9:04 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>: > I added a slice for > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13985/OrderedCollection-do-and-reverseDo-are-not-consistent-with-the-other-enumerations > > On 09 Sep 2014, at 12:53, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote: > > > fogbugz entry for fixing the menu builder > > 13979 > > PragmaMenuBuilder relies on modifying a collection while iterating over > it. > > > > > > > > > > 2014-09-03 22:59 GMT+02:00 stepharo <[email protected]>: > > Clement we should fix the code of the menu :) > > > > Stef > > > > > > On 3/9/14 15:25, Clément Bera wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> Sven you are right, the old compiler was consistent in the sense that > it always iterated over all the elements, including the ones added with > #add: and #addLast: while iterating over the collection. > >> On the other hand, VW is consistent with the Opal implementation for > #to:do: in the sense that they iterate only on the elements of the > collection excluding the ones added while iterating. > >> > >> #add:after: and co do not work well if you edit the collection while > iterating over it for sure :). > >> > >> It's too late for "don't modify a collection while iterating it" > because the system does it, for example, to build the world menu. So I > think the solution is in two steps: > >> - removing code which edit the collection while iterating over it. As > most frameworks work both on Pharo and VW and that the behavior is > different I think there shouldn't be that much, so fixing the Pharo image > may be enough. > >> - be consistent in our collection protocol, basically by rewriting do: > and reverseDo: like that: > >> > >> FROM: > >> do: aBlock > >> "Override the superclass for performance reasons." > >> | index | > >> index := firstIndex. > >> [index <= lastIndex] > >> whileTrue: > >> [aBlock value: (array at: index). > >> index := index + 1] > >> TO: > >> do: aBlock > >> "Override the superclass for performance reasons." > >> firstIndex to: lastIndex do: [ :index | > >> aBlock value: (array at: index) ] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 2014-09-03 14:05 GMT+02:00 Camille Teruel <[email protected]>: > >> > >> On 3 sept. 2014, at 11:42, Clément Bera <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello guys, > >> > > >> > I was looking into the OrderedCollection protocols recently to see > how well the sista optimizer perform with it methods, and I realized that > this is completely broken. > >> > > >> > For example: > >> > > >> > col := #(1 2 3 4 5) asOrderedCollection. > >> > col do: [ :elem | elem trace . > >> > elem < 4 ifTrue: [ col add: col size + 1 ]]. > >> > > >> > => '12345678' > >> > > >> > However: > >> > > >> > col := #(1 2 3 4 5) asOrderedCollection. > >> > col collect: [ :elem | elem trace . > >> > elem < 4 ifTrue: [ col add: col size + 1 ]]. > >> > > >> > => '12345' > >> > > >> > This means that #do: and #reverseDo: iterate over all the elements of > the collection,*including* the ones that you are adding while iterating > over the collection, whereas all the other OrderedCollection protocols, > such as #collect:, #select:, iterates over all the elements of the > collection, *excluding* the ones you are adding while iterating over the > collection. > >> > > >> > Marcus argued that one should not edit a collection while iterating > over it, however this point is not valid as the World menu relies on this > feature, using #do: to iterate over the elements of the OrderedCollection > including the one it is adding while iterating over the collection. > Changing the implementation makes the world menu display half of its items. > >> > > >> > I don't like this difference because it is inconsistent. For example, > refactoring a #do: into a #collect: can simply not work because they do not > iterate over the same elements if you are editing the collection while > iterating over it. > >> > > >> > In VW, the protocols are consistent and iterating over a collection > never iterates over the elements one is adding while iterating over it. > Therefore, I believe most frameworks should expect this behavior (at least > the ones cross smalltalk) which sounds the most correct. > >> > > >> > I think we should fix the world menu implementation and make the > protocols consistent. Alternatively, we can let VW be a much more > consistent Smalltalk environment than Pharo. What do you think ? > >> > >> > >> The thing is to find alternative implementations that are efficient > enough (no copy). Maybe we can get some inspirations from VW for that (how > do they do BTW?). > >> You should also check with other kinds of collection because they may > act differently than OrderedCollection. > >> So in the end it depends on the amount of effort needed to make all > collections consistent with this new requirement and on the resulting > overhead. > >> If it's too much, I think that following the old advice "don't modify a > collection while iterating it" is enough. If one really needs to do such > kind of things he should consider an alternative design like using a zipper > for example. > >> > >> Camille > >> > >> > > >> > Clement > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
