exactly and most of us are aware of these tools and the fact that are very
useful because

a) we are registered in the moose mailing list
b) because you have posted a few demonstrations videos about their use
here, in the moose mailing  list and in tweeter.

I am very excited that you push pharo development forward and can't wait to
see what more surprises you have in store for us.

My thread which I think it was blown out of proportions was just a request
for clarifications and some criticism on the tool itself. I never demanded
that the tool should changed just for my shake or I wont use it, nor I
expect these changes to come fast or in same form as Workspace. As I said
in that thread Pharo 4 is a long way to go till its release. I have no
regrets about that thread, my criticism still stands and I think I have
been fair and polite but also honest.

You replied to my questions without making assumptions and jumping to
conclusions about my character and my state of mind and I really appreciate
that.

As I state always and maybe I started to sound boring by now, documentation
is the most important feature. Playground is an advanced tool and of course
it needs some explaining to utilise properly . Those blog posts are
definetly a good starting point.  I am still studying them  and I will be
using Playground non stop from now on because I use always the latest Pharo
4 for my project Ephestos. I usually get the latest release every few days.

Actually your reply put it in some thinking about the potential of using GT
tools to refactor Python code which is the core goal of my project.
Definetly some exciting potential there. Keep up the great work.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Thierry,
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thierry Goubier <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>> And now, to make integration easier, we pile more stuff on top of the
>> existing, bound to be removed, infrastructure: Glamour, Rubric, etc... And
>> both Glamour and Spec don't make it easy to solve Morphic bugs.
>>
>> I value your ambition a lot :) But I also feel that it stresses the Rmod
>> team, and it leaks over the community.
>>
>
> I believe there is a confusion here. GT and Glamour are not maintained by
> the RMoD team. GT is  an external project and it is maintained in its
> separate repository. That is why it stresses RMoD less and it is a way of
> scaling.
>
> Also, since more than one year I am working on fixing various Morphic
> problems, and I can tell you that GT provides a significant productivity
> boost in that specific area. In any case, you should also note that these
> tools are under development since several years (the overall project
> started 5 years ago) and they are being actively used since 2 years in
> Moose. I believe we never had that much focus on the tools before.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Every thing has its own flow"
>

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