I tried the ARM VMs published at http://www.mirandabanda.org but they failed, 
even on a standard RaspberryPi running Rasbian (wrong libc) - these seem to be 
compiled statically for a too specific range of machines/OSes.

But then I tried the JB ones and they worked fine !

I used this link: 
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/RaspberryPi-Cross-Compilation-JB/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/vmSources/results.tar.gz

After adding PharoV30.sources I got Pharo 3 running on the command line 
including a normally functioning Zn HTTP server. On the Online Labs machines I 
had to install libasound2 as well.

The Online Labs machines seem pretty fast:

ubuntu@c1-10-1-14-179:~$ ./jb-vm/PharoS -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '1 
tinyBenchmarks'
'39975015 bytecodes/sec; 2174908 sends/sec'

vs a Raspberry Pi:

pi@raspberrypi ~/pharo $ ./jb-vm/PharoS -vm-display-null Pharo.image eval '1 
tinyBenchmarks'
'13377926 bytecodes/sec; 719200 sends/sec'

That looks like a factor 3 to 4 faster.

But it is way slower than the regular VM on my machine:

prometheus:pharo4 sven$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '1 tinyBenchmarks'
'985563041 bytecodes/sec; 160902758 sends/sec'

Probably the plain stack VM vs the Cog JIT is a factor too.

Thanks JB !

Is this VM production ready (so to speak) ?

Sven

PS: We still need easier access to this + better instructions.

> On 14 Nov 2014, at 12:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 14 Nov 2014, at 01:02, Eliot Miranda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sven,
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just saw this: http://labs.online.net which offers real ARM cloud servers 
>> (15 minutes for free to try out) [they're French]. This is Ubuntu 14.10 on 
>> ARMv7.
>> 
>> Naturally I wanted to try Pharo on such a machine.
>> 
>> The base question is, where do I get the latest and best VM to try this ?
>> 
>> Doug McPherson is building Stack VMs for ARMv6 and ARMv7 for both Cog and 
>> Spur and uploading them to my site.  These VMs should run Pharo.  See e.g. 
>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3126/
> 
> I tried that and it does not seem to work:
> 
> ubuntu@c1-10-1-16-102:~$ ls
> Pharo.changes  Pharo.image  PharoV30.sources  stklinuxhtARM  
> stklinuxhtARMv7-14.45.3126.tgz
> 
> ubuntu@c1-10-1-16-102:~$ ./stklinuxhtARM/bin/squeak -vm-display-null 
> Pharo.image printVersion
> pthread_setschedparam failed: Operation not permitted
> Read e.g. http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3126/README.3126
> 
> Maybe their system is special, I don't know, it feels pretty standard, 
> running the latest Ubuntu.
> 
> I noticed the 'ht' in the VM name, is there no 'normal' one ?
> 
> I will try on a Raspberry Pi as well.
> 
>> Maybe a complete & easy to use source tree that can be compiled locally ?
>> 
>> That's the case for  http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog.  See 
>> http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/build.linux32ARM
>> 
>> And would it make sense to add some ARM option to get.pharo.org ?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> 
>> Sven
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> best,
>> Eliot


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