Le 24/11/2014 17:24, kilon alios a écrit :
>> yes you are right, but also you are digressing :)
>> my question is simple: do you think this small change can help or is
useless?
is it not enough that I said " I think it makes sense to display only
the name of the repository instead of its web location " ?
My philosophy on GUI design is to keep it as simple as possible (noob
friendly )and make as customisable as possible (experienced user friendly).
So in this case a section displaying paths can be made hidden by default
and the user will be able to make it unhidden. This way none will
complain or have a good reason to complain about the change and should
not be difficult to implement.
Honestly, I don't see the point (and I'm an expert). A shortened (but
complete) description is both good for the novice and the expert, it
makes the code simpler, it makes the GUI aesthetically pleasing, it
fasten the workflow of both novice and expert alike, and it helps the
novice to become an expert.
I don't like the approach of monticello of "let put everything in a
single GUI " , its near impossible to understand it without
documentation and frankly its not that complex to justify this difficulty.
I'd say that the main problem of Monticello is on its left side, not on
the right...
>> For laptops monitors (i.e. the 1366x768 and 1440x900 that are fairly
common), some are too large: Nautilus,
GTPlayground.
>> (But for GTPlayground, it may be on purpose :))
I happen to have such a laptop the 2010 macbook air. Lets be sincere
most coders have normal sided monitors (20''+ for desktop , 15''+
laptop) and a FULL HD resolution is the standard nowdays. I have an air
but my main work is with retina 27'' 2013 imac. I use air when I am in
the move or just in the bed before going to sleep hacking pharo.
I use that kind of setup (11.6" and 24"), but, still, in most laptops
you have to consider that they are stuck at 1366x768 (what is the market
share of retina macbooks?).
> I know coders that also love working with 2 monitors.
I do, but they are hard to carry in a plane or in a train :P
Its impossible to create a design that fits all unless the gui is highly
dynamic like what modern websites are doing nowdays.
Well, we had the techno in GUI more than 20 years ago, but the web is
only now reinventing that (and badly at that).
So there is definetly a lot of room for improvement on GUI design for
Pharo and small size monitors is not the main reason to change the
design. A good excuse would be as Stef puts it most of time "we dont
have the people or the money to do this in the near future".
But even for me with retina display and 27'' the gui design is a big
issues because I end up opening tons of pharo windows.
And that's why I'd say if you make it ok to deal with multiple windows
on a 11"6 screen, then going to a 27" becomes pure bliss.
I hope I do my small part to help the overall gui experience with pharo
and maybe others will join too to make "pharo is yours" reality.
I'm certainly a good example of that. My Pharo is mine! (and I have an
IDE I like which is truly mine :P)
And I can only encourage you to do the same ;)
Thierry
