Guys
you make me laugh.
We built pharo to reinvent smalltalk (Since day one) and many people
shout and cry because we do not want to say that this is a smalltalk and
because it is not compatible.
Now suddenly you show up (we pushed ESUG since 15 years BTW) telling us
that we should all aggregate under the renaissance program (without
really knowing what we are deeply doing) and now you criticize that
nobody on Smalltalk is doing innovation.
So let me tell you this:
- adhesion and trust is based on actions in open-source world (So
the ball is in your camp).
- if I would have got the money that alan got for his projects,
Pharo would not be like
it is now but way better. There is a pharo roadmap (you may find it
interesting) and we are steadily addressing it. We should write the new
version of the Pharo vision.
- Pharo is not Smalltalk and we are doing it our way. We want to
make sure that
people can get a living building applications with Pharo.
- We are not just creating a language. We are creating an ecosystem
with companies and universities.
Here my piece of advices:
- doing takes a lot more energy than talking, so think in terms of
milestones:
"what should I do if I do not get the energy to push it during years?"
- there are plenty of ways to help but you have to decide. What you
want to do.
-- reading books
-- writing tutorials
-- blogging (but I agree I always pay attention about what
I blog/twit)
-- develop libraries
Stef
Le 29/12/14 01:36, horrido a écrit :
Bret Victor's talk is certainly interesting. This got me thinking...
What we need is a modern-day PARC with a /next generation/ of visionaries to
advance Smalltalk. They would carry on the work that was begun four decades
ago.
Here's the thing: The Smalltalk environment has not fundamentally changed
or improved since the Xerox PARC days. We've been tweaking the design here
and there, but nothing groundbreaking has happened.
Is the current Smalltalk environment the /final word/ on the nature of
dynamic programming and humane representation of thought? I seriously doubt
it.
Who are the visionaries that will shake things up? How do we find them?
Let's face it: We've all become rather complacent. (With the exception of
Newspeak, which frankly doesn't impress me much. *We don't need a new
language!*)
This is something Smalltalk Renaissance should think about.
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