Hi Doru,

>You are now talking about exactly one item out of 10. When was the last time 
>you used the 
>Close menu entry from that menu?

As I said in my mail - I'm more keen on getting the feature back than
getting back this menu. 

>If we do not go through this process we will find out in 10 years that we have 
>the same 
>solutions around us. I know it can be painful but the investment is worth it.

Will "we be better" when we remove a windows menu because we usually use 
keyboard shortcuts to close windows? I doubt it. Where do you want to put
the info what can be done with the window?

Look at all the regular computer window based UI system: they still have such a 
menu. Will we really break with these expectations?

For sure we could slim down and reduce it because we do not like it. But in 
regular OS systems
these contain textual menu infos what you can do and to my knowledge this is 
also used 
by accessibility tools like screen readers, ...
 
>Well. It is hard to come with new things by doing exactly the same things as 
>yesterday.

Agree with that - but other window manager designers where not too bad in 
thinking
about such issues. 
 
>So, that means that you do prefer the Playground after all :)

Yes. Do do not misunderstand my posts. I enjoy these new tools - still I ask you
questions like "why do I click on Workspace and get a Playground" or "why is 
grouping not possible anymore"? 
To me the first one is simply not intuitive and the other one a break in my 
flow. 

>That might be a solution, but what we have now is not such a solution. 
>Please give us time.

Yes - maybe we must be more patient. I understand that sometimes one has to 
go 1 step backward to move 2 steps forward :)

Bye
T.


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