2015-02-05 16:02 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:

>
> > On 05 Feb 2015, at 15:44, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > 2015-02-02 3:03 GMT+01:00 Eliot Miranda <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Nicolai Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2015-02-01 10:52 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Looking into Image locking problems [1] caused by a recursive array such
> as this...
> >
> >     literalArray := #( 1 2 3 ).
> >     literalArray at: 3 put: literalArray.
> >
> > I find that "literalArray printString" locks the image due to
> Array>>printOn: use of the recursive #shouldBePrintedAsLiteral method. Now
> its implementation is identical to #isLiteral and indeed "literalArray
> isLiteral" also locks the Image. So comparing implementors of #isLiteral...
> >
> >
> >
> > Squeak uses a Set to store all visited elements for
> shouldBePrintedAsLiteral and this protects against the recursive loop.
> >
> > shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting: aSet
> >     self class == Array ifFalse:
> >         [^false].
> >     (aSet includes: self) ifTrue:
> >         [^false].
> >     aSet add: self.
> >     ^self allSatisfy: [:each | each shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting:
> aSet]
> >
> >
> > isn't there a common pattern to handle this kind of potential endless
> recursion?
> >
> > At Cadence we fixed it thus:
> >
> > Object>>shouldBePrintedAsLiteral
> >
> >       ^self isLiteral
> >
> > Array>>shouldBePrintedAsLiteral
> >
> >       ^self class == Array
> >         and: [self shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting: (IdentitySet new:
> 8)]
> >
> > Object>>shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting: aSet
> >
> >       ^self isLiteral
> >
> >  Array>>shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting: aSet
> >       self class == Array ifFalse:
> >               [^false].
> >       (aSet includes: self) ifTrue:
> >               [^false].
> >       aSet add: self.
> >       ^self allSatisfy: [:each | each shouldBePrintedAsLiteralVisiting:
> aSet]
> >
> >
> > Is there something more "generic". Something we can use for any object
> tracing.
> > Isn't there something the GC uses? The GC obviously does not fall into
> this loop.
> > (It flags visited objects, but there is nothing exposed that can be used
> > at the image level?)
> > How do ImageSegment or Fuel work with recursive structures?
>
> In Moose there is DeepTraverser which does something similar it seems.
>
> FUEL & STON do this too.
>

How is it done in Fuel and STON ? Do they both use DeepTraverser, or
is there another implementation in Fuel and another one in STON?




>
> > Nicolai
> >
> >
> >
> >   Object>>isLiteral           ^false
> >   Boolean>>isLiteral          ^true
> >   Character>>isLiteral                ^true
> >   Integer>>isLiteral          ^true
> >   String>>isLiteral           ^true
> >   UndefinedObject>>isLiteral  ^true
> >
> >   ByteArray>>isLiteral                ^self class == ByteArray
> >   Float>>isLiteral            ^self isFinite "^(self - self) = 0.0"
> >   ScaledDecimal>>isLiteral    ^denominator = 1 or: [(10 raisedTo:
> scale)\\denominator = 0]
> >
> >   Array>>isLiteral            ^self class == Array and: [self
> allSatisfy: [:each | each isLiteral]]
> >
> > ...I find most are very basic (might even say deterministic), with the
> recursion of Array>>isLiteral seeming an annomaly.  Also, the big IF
> condition in Array>>printOn: smells like a design decision being made at
> runtime (Valloud AMCOS p12).
> >
> >     Array>>printOn: aStream
> >       self shouldBePrintedAsLiteral ifTrue: [self printAsLiteralFormOn:
> aStream. ^ self].
> >       self isSelfEvaluating ifTrue: [self printAsSelfEvaluatingFormOn:
> aStream. ^ self].
> >       super printOn: aStream
> >
> > Flipping between two printString formats seems like selecting between
> two class types. Indeed, if we had a LiteralArray class, there would be no
> need for its printOn: to recursively search to determine its form, thus
> allowing #printStringLimitedTo: to do its thing to protect against infinite
> recursion.
> >
> > Also, instead of a recursive Array>>isLiteral we'd have something like
> >   LiteralArray>>isLiteral     ^true
> >   Array>>isLiteral            ^false
> > which seems to align much better with the pattern of the other
> #isLiteral implementors.
> >
> > I notice there is both RBArrayNode and RBLiteralArrayNode.
> >
> > So what are the wider concerns that might apply?
> > (In particular, I'm not sure how the #isSelfEvaluating (which is also
> recursive) fits into the big picture)
> >
> > cheers -ben
> >
> > [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg25156.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > best,
> > Eliot
>
>

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