On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>>
>>
>> This is quite a hidden and implicit key stroke.  Regardless that I know
>> I've used it before follow a tutorial, I forgot it.  Since Spotter has a
>> <Settings Icon> (which I like and think it could be pushed as a standard
>> throughout the system in Pharo 5), it might be useful for Pharo 4 if the
>> Spotter Settings page contains a "How To" or "Keyboard shortcuts" item that
>> just contains descriptive text.  Or if there is no facility for that,
>> perhaps a few of the keyboard shortcuts listed as individual items with
>> descriptions, even if you can't change them.  I think this will be useful
>> for people presented with Spotter for the first time, particularly since
>> first use already prompts users to go to settings to send usage data.
>
>
>
> Yes, you right, shortcuts were quite hidden. However, after we received a
> lot of similar feedback we improved the situation with shortcuts. Now all
> actions in Spotter have explicit action buttons:
>

Cool. When I was looking at a results category down the page, I didn't
notice the icon at the top (in the image shown next to 16/16) or in advance
understand that it would move if I clicked in the category. I can
understand the logic that it indicates which category the shortcut will
apply to, however...
* I'm not really going to be looking at a graphic UI component when using
shortcut.  I'll "just know" what it applies to.
* To use the shortcut on other than the first category, it takes two
actions: mouse-click the category *then* use the shortcut.  If the icon
appeared on each category, it would only need one action to just click the
icon.   (After I wrote this I see Sean had a similar issue, so I know its
late. but can Pharo 4 get that icon per category, rather than just on the
top category?)


>
> As soon as you press "shift" (you can't not to press shift during usage of
> spotter) all action buttons are highlighted explicitly:
>

Nice feature, but actually I don't notice myself using <Shift> a lot (maybe
I am under utilising the shortcuts) so this is catch-22 [1] - the feature
may go unnoticed for newbies.  Perhaps where the text entry is seeded with
"Search", this could accommodate a tip more like "Search - hold shift to
show functions/tooltips"

[1]  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Catch+22


>
> If you hover action button for a few second a hint appears that tells
> which shortcut is assigned to an action. If you hover the button while
> pressing shift a hint appears immediately:
>
> Also, in Pharo help there is a good tutorial listing all Spotter shortcuts
> and assigned actions:
>

This is good, but not immediately discoverable. Perhaps a button on the
settings page could link to that page?

cheers -ben


>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Ben Coman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Aliaksei.
>>
>> This is quite a hidden and implicit key stroke.  Regardless that I know
>> I've used it before follow a tutorial, I forgot it.  Since Spotter has a
>> <Settings Icon> (which I like and think it could be pushed as a standard
>> throughout the system in Pharo 5), it might be useful for Pharo 4 if the
>> Spotter Settings page contains a "How To" or "Keyboard shortcuts" item that
>> just contains descriptive text.  Or if there is no facility for that,
>> perhaps a few of the keyboard shortcuts listed as individual items with
>> descriptions, even if you can't change them.  I think this will be useful
>> for people presented with Spotter for the first time, particularly since
>> first use already prompts users to go to settings to send usage data.
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> It's CMD+Shift+Right
>>> On Apr 5, 2015 2:23 AM, "Ben Coman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just a note, I went back to an old image and really miss the Spotter
>>>> workflow.
>>>>
>>>> One thing, can you remind me how when it shows 5/30 implementors I get
>>>> a list of all 30?  I'm sure I've done this before but can't remember.
>>>> Perhaps this means its not obvious and maybe should appear in a "How To
>>>> Use" section in the Release Notes.
>>>>
>>>> cheers -ben
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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