Le 9/4/15 08:49, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi Stef,

This Raw view is the result of many debates and negotiations. We can safely say it was designed by committee.

As I mentioned before, I think the tree is overkill in this context and it makes things unnecessarily slow.
Totally agree on this one. It defeats the purpose of navigation.
To me this is terrible.


But, we will try better for Pharo 5 :)

Cheers,
Doru

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:23 PM, stepharo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    The Playground has inspect on Cmd+Shift+i as requested by you.

    Ok good to know because this is important.
    What aboout an help?

    There is a problem with the update as it does not scale in the
    current form. Please see the reply of Andrei. We will likely
    remove that feature for the release.

    Just to clarify: When did we ever say that someone is stupid?

    Esteban told me that it was not freezing when we had to trash the
    image.
    Just that the machine was slow. To me this is a non answer.


    If we could get a real raw = basic inspect tabe then we can use GT
    and work.
    To me the raw tab with an explorer inside is counterproductive: we
    can get lost, it is slow, it does not work well with navigation of GT.

    Cheers,
    Doru



    On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM, stepharo <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        This morning GTInspector was so slow that it blocked the
        complete system on the machine of Cyril. :(
        We can tell him that he is stupid to have a bad machine or we
        could try to use this to see how
        we can help our users.

        So we had to use basicInspect to get our job done (once we
        ctrl-. to escape the render hell)
        because raw uses a tree morph.

        Why raw cannot reproduce the old simple and working basicInspect
        then we could have a "basic" inspect on double click to avoid
        to use this bad tree and that we can work.

        just try to on RubSmalltalkCodeMode class>>#menuOn: to get
        the feel. Even on my superfast machine is
        is sluggish.

        I really think that we should support backdoors.
        We need to have a mini browser, a mini debugger and a working
        inspector.

        Setf




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