Le 21/4/15 21:25, [email protected] a écrit :
Pillar is fine as long as we aren't forced into the backend quirks to
get a given output.
I haven't see Docbook and Docbook-XML and XSL-FO mentioned. But these
are working nicely too.
Lots of Linux docs are written with Docbook.
I've a client who outputs supercomplicated documents with XSL-FO.
A Pillar output to Docbook would be great.
should be a visitor :)
One must invest time in any choice to be really productive. WYSIWYG
included.
FWIW LibreOffice equations are written much faster when one knows the
text based language than with the point and click tools.
The best thing is an ability to render fast. Same as Smalltalk: fast
feedback in order to iterate without a break in the flow.
Le 21 avr. 2015 20:03, "kilon alios" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
Funnily enough I am in the exact opposite opinion, of Graphical
approach being vastly superior to text based approach including
programming languages. 25 years using computers and coding with
them and still cannot fathom why programming languages are still a
think and why developers and "power" users rely so much on text
based approach. But whether I like it or not the coding world is
dominated by text based solutions.
Its a pointless debate though when it comes to pharo will depend
on the people doing the work. Personally I don't have the time of
going very deep into this and doing all the hard work it requires.
My focus is elsewhere. But I welcome any contribution.
As a lawyer myself and a coder, I cannot even begin to compare
Latex to the convenience of Libreoffice I use at work. Its not
even a debate . Latex is something I never heard of until Pillar
introduced me to it. Can't imagine who in the right mind would use
this to document things, but I guess they have their reasons.
I started with command line and CP/M back in 1988 but even back
then when GUIs were not mainstream (at least in my country) I was
dreaming of graphical intefaces that would lift me from the
restrictions of text based approach and the dreaded command line.
I wish I had found out about Smalltalk back then and its elegant
solution to this problem.
I love Pillar because its simple and I like the syntax, but yeah
in the end I would choose a Graphical Documentation Tool no
questions asked.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Sean P. DeNigris
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I dream that all documents in my Dynabook are WYSIWYG.
However, the
computing world seems to have regressed into writing
documents in various
forms of assembly code.
Completely disagree, that it's a regression in any way :)
Text-based document writing has enabled so many more features
than WYSIWYG approaches have ever dreamed of. I would be happy
to debate the merits of the two approaches, feature-for-feature.
You're basically pining for the equivalent of VisualBasic drag
& drop programming, versus the flexibility of writing code in
an editor. The latter wins, no contest. (Now, that is not to
say that text-based code editing can't be /improved/ with
better IDE tools, that's what we're all about after all.)
