Should be ? There is no "should be" it is what it is, if anyone wants
something more he is more than welcomed to stop writing to the mailing list
and use that time instead to sit his ass down and make the code . The
potential of Pharo is unlimited but taking advantage of it is hard work and
nothing else. BigData frameworks dont come from BigWords.

I wanted Pharo to work with python and use python libraries . Did I came to
this mailing list to write that pharo "should be" able to use python
libraries, because python is super popular and its constantly growing ?

Nope !

I sat down my ass and worked hard to make it happen and I did accomplish
it. Still much to improve but there is no substitute to hard work and
putting the time to improve pharo.

You wanna use Jars from Pharo , no problemo, work hard and do it. But
please dont tell me what should be in the vision of Pharo, why BigData and
not 3d graphics, why 3d graphics and not network libraries, why network
libraries and not more IDE tools, why IDE tools and not more advanced
language features, why advance language features and not a C API , why C
API and not web development frameworks ?

In the end nothing , NOTHING , should be outside the scope of a language
that wants to call itself "turing complete" . No goal is higher than
something else. Each coders has different needs . What it "Should be" is
people that are willing to work hard to make THEIR OWN NEEDS a reality
using a tool THEY LOVE using. Its a choice.

And a Stef so well says it

Pharo is Yours

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:44 PM Robert Withers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> What I mean is that an undertaking of this scope should be in the Vision
> and on the roadman for Pharo, with a broader concerted commitment to
> enterprise BigData integration.
>
> robert
>
> On 12/28/2015 02:29 PM, Robert Withers wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 12/28/2015 12:19 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
> >> On 27 December 2015 at 16:11, Robert Withers
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> This would be awesome in Pharo:
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/A+Guide+To+The+Kafka+Protocol
> .
> >>>
> >>> Since we cannot yet call JARs, implementing the wire protocol and API
> >>> proxies would really be huge from an enterprise pharo standpoint. If
> >>> other
> >>> folks are interested in working on this, I could help out.
> >> Having a Kafka client in Pharo would indeed be awesome. But who cares
> >> about calling JARs? It's a wire protocol; write a client against that
> >> and you're done.
> >
> > Yes, although I would still like to load JARs, but for different
> > reasons. That aside, yes implementing the wire protocol would be
> > really happening. I'll help. I don't want to own it. It would
> > definitely be enterprise.
> >
> > robert
> >
> >
> >>
> >> frank
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Robert
> .  ..   ...    ^,^
>
>
>

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