Hi Stef, Just to tell you that I don't understand the process (if any) where it is decided a new tool to be the new default, how it is evaluated and by whom. But I would love to.
Hernán 2016-01-10 6:06 GMT-03:00 stepharo <[email protected]>: > Since the debugger is improving we will see if we can avoid to produce an > obsolete lecture that people will > use for 5 years. I should discuss with damien and luc. > But it means that it should be stable by monday or at maximum tuesday > because we will have to redo > the slides. Now luckily we postponed redoing 15 videos we should (re)do to > show how to code in Pharo > (for the record doing such videos of 5 min takes 3 hours minimum to do, > cut and process). > > Now I would like that we consider that I gave feedback on the icons two > years ago and the net result > was that during two years nothing changed. So I'm happy to see feedback > getting listened because > I often got the impression in the past that I should learn how to use > tools instead of having tools > that work for me (remember the discussion about playground and where we > have to explain why the result of > a printString should not only be in a popup!) > Sometimes I hate that people teachs me how I should work because I often > go faster my way. > > Stef > > Le 10/1/16 08:37, stepharo a écrit : > > Hi >> >> if GTdebugger becomes the default debugger it means that our mooc will be >> already obsolete before getting finished. >> It means that we will be forced to >> have separate installers >> different web pages explaining not to use Pharo 50 but a strange >> version >> it means that people will report bugs on a different system >> And we will have to spent time on that instead of the rest. >> >> And we will really thank the Pharo community for its great vision and >> care about our effort. >> This is more than 6 months that we are working on it and we have >> problably yet another month of work. >> Now just writing this makes me sick. >> >> So if the only respect about the work of other people is like that then I >> will just think a lot about my >> engagement. If this happens I can tell you that you will have a hard time >> to ask me to put energy into >> pharo in the future. >> >> Now if this makes you feel easy you can think that I'm tired. This poor >> stephane is working too much and >> is overacting. Think that if this helps you to feel good. Really. >> >> Now what pissed me off the most is that I'm **TEACHING** to L2 L3 and M1 >> students >> This year I was teaching to >> Prague >> Annecy >> Lviv >> Lome >> Dakar >> Saint louis >> Yaounde >> >> and when I say that the student are afraid by the default debugger, they >> are afraid also by >> a more complex one. Who among the people deciding to not put this >> debugger by default >> can show me that he did one lecture on newbies over the last two years? >> For real? >> >> So be right and go ahead: because you know what is good for the end >> programmer. >> I asked five times to understand who need _thisContext and _stakc top and >> so far I got zero answer. >> It will help me to take a break from Pharo. >> >> Stef >> >> PS: I 'm not in the Pharo board anymore because I have to do something >> else >> >> >> >> >> > >
