> On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:59, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Le 16/01/2016 11:39, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
>> 
>>> On 16 Jan 2016, at 10:45, Eliot Miranda <eliot.mira...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Thierry,
>>> 
>>> up until a few hours ago the latest VM sources were indeed broken
>>> by work I was doing on 64 bits.  My sources are AFAIA now correct
>>> and I suppose you're waiting on Esteban doing a merge.  But I'm
>>> responding since there seems to be a process error here.
>> 
>> is still broken :)
>> 
>>> 
>>> I need the freedom to break the VM, otherwise I can only extend it
>>> with difficulty.  This assumes that there are currently servers
>>> that build and test the VM, and implies that we maintain the notion
>>> of the most recent good VM that has passed all the tests, and that
>>> this is the "latest" VM everyone is using.
>>> 
>>> If there isn't this distinction then every time I extend the VM and
>>> make inevitable mistakes I affect users.  That's clearly not
>>> sensible.
>> 
>> yes of course, what we have is two versions of the VM:
>> 
>> - “latest" build is a build with latest sources… this might be
>> broken. People willing to help us find bugs should use this. -
>> “stable” build is the VM after it passed all tests… and that’s what
>> people willing some stability should use :)
>> 
>> what actually is happening now is that there is a lot of people
>> helping in the migration of spur (something I thank, a lot) and then
>> they use latest vm version… who is usually very stable (but not
>> always, as is the case).
> 
> I think the issue was that the latest vm has been very stable and that it 
> suddenly broke was a bit unexpected. At the same time, in the pre-spur days, 
> the stable was a very old build.

yes, true.
Now latest spur stable is from 14/01 so… :P

Esteban

> 
> Thierry
> 
>> cheers, Esteban
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Thierry Goubier
>>>> <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the
>>>> latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data.
>>>> 
>>>> I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to
>>>> the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in
>>>> the latest vm.
>>>> 
>>>> Thierry

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