On 3 April 2016 at 14:37, Aliaksei Syrel <[email protected]> wrote:

> I completely agree with you now, Igor :)
>
> The idea that I *proposed* during Pharo days is to make BlShape
> polymorphic with what athens have. I did not implement it yet I work on it
> just right now.
>
> I suppose that I explained me wrong to Stef and he started thinking that
> it is *already* implemented. On my road back from Pharo days I started
> working on what Stef wanted to do yesterday.
>
> I my example I just wanted to show Stef how he can solve his problem just
> right now, without saying "Oh, Stef, you know, please wait one more week".
>
> Also that was the idea why I started implementing own implementation of
> Athens Api and named it Sparta. Specifically to remove amount of
> shapes/pathes/paints used in Bloc. I was planning to finish it before I
> send an announcement email to pharo mailing list saying officially that
> bloc is released to alpha.
>

Can you shed more light on this? I need your motivation/reasoning behind
it.
I tried in Athens to keep a minimal set of protocol(s), so that there's no
need to learn numerous methods to start using it.
The shapes/paints thing is central in Athens.. so, if you see how it can be
made even simpler, i am all ears to hear details.
In any case, what i can tell from your statement above is to remove
unnecessary bloat.. which is always welcome. But why that requires changes
in Athens API, instead of changes in Bloc?


>
> I discussed it on Pharo days and we agreed to wait until announcement.
> And now I'm frustrated that people don't listen to me and try to use
> product before official release just in the middle of refactoring.
>
> No, i am not using it, yet.. The only 'people' was Stef himself :)


> What you are stating in this discussion will be implemented early or later.
>



-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.

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