On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Eliot Miranda
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:52 AM, stepharo <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> This F keys suck!
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> +1. How do you remember which F key does what in the Debugger? F10
- fix my code to be a perfect 10??
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Yeah, sure.
Visual Studio is standardized on that an millions of people are using it.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa239052%28v=vs.60%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396
Same for PhpStorm, WebStorm, and Intellij IDEA, also used by millions.
Talk about keymaps: check this -->
https://www.jetbrains.com/help/phpstorm/2016.1/function-keys.html?origin=old_help
(note the dropdown on the top right).
Let's talk Chrome devtools (just a litte user base of millions as well):
F8 -> Run
F10 -> Step over
F11 -> Step into
Let's talk Firefox (okay, a tad less users)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Debugger/Keyboard_shortcuts
Resume execution when at a breakpoint F8
Step over F10
Step into F11
Step out Shift + F11
CodeBlocks IDE
http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php/Keyboard_Shortcuts
Debug
Function Shortcut Key
Debug F8
Continue debugging Ctrl + F7
Step over a code block F7
Step into a code block Shift + F7
Step out of a code block Ctrl + Shift + F7
Toggle breakpoint F5
Run to cursor F4
Previous error Alt + F1
Next error Alt + F2
Vim plugins for debugging Ruby:
You may find useful to override default shortcut commands by F5-F8
shortcuts. Add these to your .vimrc:
map <F7> :call g:RubyDebugger.step()<CR>
map <F5> :call g:RubyDebugger.next()<CR>
map <F8> :call g:RubyDebugger.continue()<CR>
Even SAP uses F keys for that.
f5->step by step
f6->to skip the statements like perform,module,..
f7->to come out from the form,module,..
f8->run upto the cursor or run completely
R studio:
Toggle Breakpoint Shift+F9
Execute Next Line F10
Step Into Function Shift+F4
Finish Function/Loop Shift+F6
Continue Shift+F5
Stop Debugging Shift+F8
Delphi:
F4 Run program to current cursor position
F5 Toggle breakpoint
F7 Debugger step into
Shift - F7 Trace into next source line
F8 Debugger step over
Shift - F8 Run until return
F9 Run program under debugger
ActiveState Komodo IDE:
Step In F11
Step Over F10
Step Out Shift-F11
Start F5
CodeLite
Start/continue debugger F5
Step Into F11
Next F10
Step Out Shift-F11
Dolphin X6
Go F5
Step Into F11
Step Over F10
Step Out Shift-F11
Run to cursor Ctl-F10
Run Ctl-F5
Restart Ctl-Shift-F5
Toad debugger for PL/SQL
F11
Run (continue execution)
F12
Run to cursor
SHIFT+F5
Set or delete a breakpoint on the current line
SHIFT+F7
Trace into
SHIFT+F8
Step over
SHIFT+F10
Trace out
Visualworks debugger
Step Into: F5
Step: F6
Step Over: F7
Run: F9
World+dog uses F keys for debugging.
But Pharo? Nah!
We have a great debugger? Sure let's hide it under absconse shortcuts
that only we know.
New debugger is nicer looking but more painful to use and I never used
any shortcut on it as they aren't those standard things.
Anyway, I should be able to hack that the way I want, so, no real issue.
Remember, first impressions count.
This is a key one if we put "programming in the debugger" as a strong
point of the environment.
Ok on a Mac, F keys do involve a 'Fn' press because they are hidden
under volume, brightness etc.
So, on a Mac, that is more sucky than on Unix or Windows. Sure.
There's a system preference to switch to normal.
I'll get a hotmilk and a walk now. Need to calm down. "Functions keys
do suck" What ?!
Phil
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>> Stef
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>> Le 17/4/16 18:00, Ben Coman a écrit :
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>>> Interesting. A search turned up... Quick Tip Debugger Shortcut Key
Reference
>>> http://www.mularien.com/blog/category/eclipse/
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>>> cheers -ben
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>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:15 PM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>> Most of the world IDE use function keys for debugging.
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>>>> Additional benefit: easier for newcomers to use it.
>>>>
>>>> Having the buttons on the top is a pain as the code pane is at
the bottom
>>>> and requires travels all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2016 4:57 PM, "Peter Uhnák" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've added a startup script for myself... but it would be
nice to
>>>>> have it everywhere by default in some variant...
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> StartupPreferencesLoader default executeAtomicItems: {
>>>>> StartupAction
>>>>> name: 'Change debugger labels & shortcuts'
>>>>> code: [
>>>>> GLMMorphicActionRenderer compile: (
>>>>> (GLMMorphicActionRenderer>>#render:) sourceCode
>>>>> copyReplaceAll: 'setBalloonText: (anAction title'
>>>>> with: 'setBalloonText: (anAction title asString'
>>>>> ).
>>>>> RestartDebugAction compile: 'defaultKeyText
>>>>> ^ ''R'''.
>>>>> RestartDebugAction compile: 'defaultLabel
>>>>> ^ ''Restart'' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis underlined from:
1 to: 1'.
>>>>> ResumeDebugAction compile: 'defaultKeyText
>>>>> ^ ''P'''.
>>>>> ResumeDebugAction compile: 'defaultLabel
>>>>> ^ ''Proceed'' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis underlined from:
1 to: 1'.
>>>>> StepIntoDebugAction compile: 'defaultKeyText
>>>>> ^ ''I'''.
>>>>> StepIntoDebugAction compile: 'defaultLabel
>>>>> ^ ''Into'' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis underlined from: 1
to: 1'.
>>>>> StepOverDebugAction compile: 'defaultLabel
>>>>> ^ ''Over'' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis underlined from: 1
to: 1'.
>>>>> StepThroughDebugAction compile: 'defaultLabel
>>>>> ^ ''Through'' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis underlined from:
1 to: 1'.
>>>>> ]
>>>>> runOnce: true.
>>>>> }
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Peter Uhnák <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let’s turn this energy into something positive. Please propose a
>>>>>>> concrete set of default keybindings that you think would work
better. In
>>>>>>> this process, please take into account all keybindings that
are already
>>>>>>> defined in the code editor (it might not be so easy as it
appears).
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> As I've said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. can we unify the shift vs ctrl+shift nonsense? (I'm using
linux btw)
>>>>>> 2. can we use the default shortcuts pattern where one of the
letters is
>>>>>> underlined?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as for the shortcuts themselves, problem is proceed, restart & into
>>>>>>
>>>>>> proceed: ctrl+shift+p is not taken, so I don't see why it has
shortcut
>>>>>> confusing with restart
>>>>>> restart: ctrl+shift+r indents, but I'd argue that uniformity is
more
>>>>>> important here... indent is just convenience
>>>>>> into: ctrl+shift+i is taken (I've never used it, but it maybe it's
>>>>>> important), but we can still use ctrl+shift+n and underline n
(point 2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If points 1 & 2 are implemented, then the letter is not as
important,
>>>>>> although first letter is always preferable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Peter Uhnák <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm getting fed-up with GTDebugger shortcuts since they are
completely
>>>>>>>> random.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we have them more meaningful and/or somehow visible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For now I ended up overriding the labels so I can at least
see them...
>>>>>>>> but doing this is also stupid, because I still have to look
at them since I
>>>>>>>> cannot remember random shortcuts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <debugger.png>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. can we unify the shift vs ctrl+shift nonsense? (I'm using
linux
>>>>>>>> btw)
>>>>>>>> 2. can we use the default shortcuts pattern where one of the
letters
>>>>>>>> is underlined?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com>
>>>>>>> www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Value is always contextual."
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