Hi, > On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Andrei Chis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:28 AM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Le 7/6/16 à 12:00, Andrei Chis a écrit : >> Hi Peter, >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Peter Uhnak <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Privacy>>sendDiagnosticsAndUsageData should be ternary, not binary. >> >> Because right now if I refuse sending the data I will be asked again every >> single time. >> >> Indeed right now, at least in Spotter, the notification is shown every time >> it is opened in >> a new image, even if the setting was explicitly set. It was done like this >> as a reminder, >> especially if you have the setting set to true. > > Andrei for the shortcut reporter we put a number of show. Like that the user > will be reminder a number > of times and the system will get calm. May be you could do the same > > In a new image the message to send usage data is shown only once. > Indeed we could add a counter but that would have to maintain state between > images.
The problem here is that you might have multiple images on your harddisk and some of those might be sensitive. In this situation it is very important to let the user know about the privacy setting. Having a counter per computer would not solve the problem I think. Ideally, what I would like to get to is a central privacy center where you can go and see what information is being transmitted. >> So the proper behavior (imho) should be: >> >> ask Privacy for the setting… if the setting is not defined, then show a >> popup. >> If the setting is defined then respect it and do not show another popup. >> >> The current behaviour with showing the notification in Spotter and Nautilus >> should be a temporary one. >> Ideally we just need a single uniform way of showing this notification plus >> the option to control >> and see the data that each tool wants to record at a fined-grained level. >> >> >> Also it would be nice to know what happens with the data. >> >> We store it on a server and use it for various analyses. > what can you tell us on processor use in Spotter. Together with Juraj we did a rough analysis. I will summarize it in a separate mail. Cheers, Doru > Not right at this moment. I'm way to busy with other urgent things. > Some older results were discussed here: > http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib?query=Kube15a&display=abstract > Just for these result to carry more value we still need more people to send > data. > Right now few do. > > Cheers, > Andrei > > >> It is also publicly available: GTEventTool default download. >> >> I mean my projects are open source so "sendSourceCode" shouldn't be an >> issue… but what you can possibly learn from it? >> Why not just analyze the content of SmalltalkHub/GitHub? >> >> Because if you have the setting enabled it does not always work to map >> different actions that with the code that you are working on. >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> >> Peter -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum. But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality."
