> On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eliot.
>   || Are you being serious or sarcastic?
> I was sarcastics. Please don't kill me. I just too much hate java. I worked 
> on it to much :))
> 
:)

> 28 июня 2016 г. 18:05 пользователь "Eliot Miranda" <[email protected]> 
> написал:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Following this "bad idea" we should agree that smalltalk metaclass system 
>>> is horrible and class should be just a language artifact
>>> 
>> Are you being serious or sarcastic?
>> 
>>> 28 июня 2016 г. 11:45 пользователь "Jan Vrany" <[email protected]> 
>>> написал:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Nicolas Passerini <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2016-06-27 13:28 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Passerini <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> That is not quite true, annotations are (kind of) objects but you can 
>>>>>>> not put behavior in them, just define attributes and optionally default 
>>>>>>> values for those attributes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, you are right. I remember many restrictions was applied to them 
>>>>>> which always forced me to hate Java :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, there's a reason why they're restricted. Note, that the restriction 
>>>> is on language level, not at runtime level. A annotation class
>>>> with arbitrary code would pass JVM verification (or at least I can't see a 
>>>> rule that would reject such a class). 
>>>> 
>>>> When I implemented annotation support I was initially thinking the same - 
>>>> let's create an instance of CoolAnnotationClass when the code is accepted
>>>> and then one can add arbitrary code to his CoolAnnotationClass. I quickly 
>>>> realized this is a (very) bad idea. Or, to be precise, it is a bad idea 
>>>> given the 
>>>> environment. So I'd be very careful..
>>>> 
>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>>> P.S.: As for "which always forced me to hate Java": I found myself a very 
>>>> enlightening to think carefully about why somebody else
>>>> do things differently before I start to hate her/him. Besides, there's 
>>>> whole lot of things that Java guys got right...

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