Thanks
Yes we should have simpler/better packages for linux.
On 7 January 2017 at 04:31, Dale Henrichs
<[email protected]> wrote:
Stef,
RE: why they "cannot install Pharo" --- I'd guess it is because Pharo
requires 32 bit libraries and those are not available in the current
Linux
releases by default ... to install the 32 bit libraries requires sudo
privileges and students aren't going to be able to do it themselves and
the
sysadmins aren't going to want to have to add 32 bit libraries to a
bunch of
linux machines just for pharo ... just a guess .
Dale
On 01/06/2017 05:38 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
Hi pharoers
I want to share with you my experience with trying to use Pharo at the
University here on Linux.
I think that they are on Ubuntu and ... the sys admin told me that they
cannot install Pharo :(
Since I'm not expert in Linux install I cannot help ;(
So we will probably use windows.
Now they told me that what would be nice is to get a snap for Pharo
based on snapcraft.io.
Does any of you have a snap description or willing to help so that we
can
get
a snap for Pharo50? then for Pharo60?
Disclaimer: I haven't ever developed a snap package, so this is just
my understanding, no experience!
Damien has already mentioned Docker, which may be a good solution -
I'm not familiar enough to comment on the differences other than I
expect that a snap package would be lower overhead.
Snap packaging is being developed by Canonical, the maintainers of
Ubuntu. The touted advantages over existing packaging formats such as
ppa's include:
- Applications are sandboxed, increasing security (the are known
limitations with X11, but this is the goal)
- All dependencies can be included in the package - this gets back to
what Dale was saying about the 32 bit libraries, they could be
included in, and limited to, the snap package. Having said that, I
don't know if snap packages support 32bit applications.
- They're cross platform. The snap runtime has been ported to many of
the major linux distributions, e.g. fedora, arch, gentoo, etc.
- They're supposed to be fairly easy to develop (compared to ppa's).
If Pharo can be made to work as a snap package it would probably be a
good replacement for the ppa (eventually, older OSs won't support
them).
Cheers,
Alistair
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