My last mail on that topic
Esteban told me that we should recompile the cairo lib with acceleration
enabled.
Now probably Mozz2d is the coolest techno right now.
We read about Azure when Igor started to build athens. Athens was designed
to make sure that
when Cairo dies we do not have to rewritte everything.
Stef
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:55:25 +0100, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Moz2D looks pretty great and the stateless argument makes sense.
Furthermore there is an isolation layer.
Interesting reads:
https://blog.mozilla.org/joe/2011/04/26/introducing-the-azure-project/
http://robert.ocallahan.org/2011/09/graphics-api-design.html
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Moz2D
https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/2d/2D.h
Having browser grade speed views in a OSWindow is enabling.
Cairo is not going to give us super speedy UIs, sorry, just check the
demos we have in the image, they are sluggish.
Phil
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:27 PM, stepharong <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Then we will need Cairo + SDL2 (that does not work for us)
I do not get why SDL20 would not work for us while it is used by gaming
engines. Are we that special?
We built interactive applications for Thales with complex event touch
and now suddenly "it does not work for us" TM.
I have the impression that each time I see Bloc we need something more
special (now this is Gtk)
To me it looks like it is a systematic "fuite en avant" with even more
Mb consumption each time.
Personally I do not care of blur and effects, or color max filters.
Right now you do not even have a single example of something that is
not a littledemo.
Why we cannot have a tk/tcl or red-language like working system? I mean
working now and not relyingon multiple MB of code extracted from an
existing project?
+ Freetype2 (for fonts) + Graphite (glyphs shaping technology in order
to use them within vector graphics engine) + cross platform OpenGL /
Vulkan context/device provider for hardware >>>acceleration +
implement Filters for effects (blur, lights, color matrix filters,
etc...).
Without all those technologies bloc WILL progress, from 80's to 00's.
Still decades behind :)
Well I would prefer to have something from the 00 working now that from
2016 not working.
Because now what I will do is continuing to work on Morphic because
this is what I have.You see I removed graphics from my future books.
You probably do not care.In the future I will concentrate on anything
else than graphics and widgets like that I will have no frustration.
Hacking the compiler finally should be a lot nicer.You see next week I
go to visit alain and I will not discuss nor work on such topics like
that no frustration.
Finally I will not comment anymore on Bloc anymore. I should not have.
You do not seem to understand my point so I will shut up but years will
pass before Bloc will be integrated in Pharo, becauseintegrated means
maintained by us in case the guys behind bloc/brick get hired by
anybody else on earth.
You seem to underestimate that part.
Ok you are super right and I'm super wrong.
Stef
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