> On 31 Jan 2017, at 11:56, Henrik Johansen <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 21:13 , Denis Kudriashov <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 2017-01-30 20:25 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
>> Well, you should do your utmost best to prevent the situation in the first 
>> place (use startup/shutdown behaviour correctly).
>> 
>> I remember I had those problems a lot in the beginning of Zn, especially 
>> when running tests that sometimes failed.
>> 
>> Have you seen Zn's #isListening ? I think that was written to catch the case 
>> you described, but I am not sure it is 100% rock solid.
>> 
>> Yes. This is exactly how I fix my case.
>> But this post is about general problem which I think is very critical.
>> 
>> In #isListening code I see extra condition  "self serverSocket localPort = 
>> self port". Could you explain what case it is covered?  
>> 
> 
> Doesn't work on Windows;
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16939/Intermittent-monkey-failures-due-to-port-usage-in-server-tests
> 
> IIRC, behaviour is different on all three platforms:
> - Linux raises error
> - Mac assigns different port than requested
> - Win assigns requested port, but receives no traffic.

This is the curse of being x-platform, we don't see them often (luckily) but 
there are important (semantic) differences that sometimes make life (very) 
difficult.

> How to detect the last one from image is a very good question (tm) indeed... 
> 
> Cheers,
> Henry


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