We need to open this up.. I want to expose the image using fuse on linux. Holidays coming...
Phil Le 8 juin 2017 10:17, "Dimitris Chloupis" <[email protected]> a écrit : > problem is when you try to use a generic ide or an ide made for another > language is that you get a sub standard experience. For example pyDev is an > Eclipse extension that allows one to use Eclipse which is a predominantly > Java IDE for Python. I used that in the past now I use PyCharm a Python > exclusive IDE that is like nigh and day with PyDev. > > Pharo IDE has a lot of issues (auto completion being the worst for me) but > its after all tailor made for Pharo. IDE APIs by the way are very common , > especially for open source IDEs like Eclipse, Netbeans etc. So its possible > to connect pharo with a ton of IDEs out there and not particularly hard , > but there is little motivation to do so. > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:19 AM Ben Coman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I just bumped into Microsoft's MIT Licensed IDE "Visual Studio Code" that >> runs on OSX, Linux & Windows. What is interesting is their Debug Protocol >> for connecting to language specific debuggers. >> * https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/extensionAPI/api-debugging >> >> If I had time, it would be interesting (and super cool) to build a Debug >> Adaptor in Pharo >> * https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/extensionAPI/language-support >> as well as a Language Server Protocol provider >> * https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/extensionAPI/language-support >> Could make a good student project or two. The skills learnt and >> demonstrated would be quite marketable outside of the Pharo community. >> >> From a marketing perspective, it might be more palatable for existing >> Visual Studio users to install Pharo as an extension rather than install >> Pharo as a whole new IDE (i.e. Pharo) - a common complaint about Smalltalk >> in general. At a minimum there is the exposure gained from Microsoft's >> Extension Marketplace, with early adoptors trying out Pharo >> just-because-its-there. It also smashes that regular criticism of Smalltalk >> that it lives too much in its on isolated world. >> >> It might attract developers wanting to do polygot development, for >> example (just guessing that might be possible): >> * game development using Unity libraries for the game engine with >> Ronnie's minimal-vm embedded as the scripting language, and debugging both >> in parallel from a single environment >> * Pharo web server backend with Javascript frontend >> >> I vaguely wonder if it would be possible to make a Debug Adaptor that >> integrates VM & Image level debugging, transparently stepping from >> Smalltalk into the VM C code. That could be useful for FFI debugging, or >> developing low-level graphics interfaces that might break our internal IDE. >> >> Disclaimer: Like all my random ideas, its a bit vague and dreamy, but I >> had no concept of it yesterday, so just sharing the find to stimulate >> future ideas. >> >> cheers -ben >> >
