I really appreciate your patience and help on this - it looks very promising 
and I am giving it a spin now…

When you say the pharo repository - are you referring to this: 
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/tree/master/src 
<https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/tree/master/src>. ? Just so I know for 
the future.


Tim

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 09:16, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-08-03 10:14 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> The easiest think you can do is to copy to your repository (or some other) 
> related packages from the Pharo repository (to do not have to clone it all):
> 
> Metacello-GitBasedRepository.package
> Metacello-GitHub.package
> SUnit-Core.package
> 
> and create baseline to load them. I already tried it so you can test it:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzSsmZhqtUTeMVJacTZtdW5UQW8 
> <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzSsmZhqtUTeMVJacTZtdW5UQW8>
> 
> Then you will do something like:
> 
> (accidental message send ;-) )
> 
> BASELINE=MetacelloGitBasedRepository
> pharo "$IMAGE_NAME.image" --no-default-preferences eval --save \
>       "Metacello new baseline: '$BASELINE'; repository: 
> 'filetree://./PharoLambda/src <filetree://./PharoLambda/src>'; load."
> 
> BASELINE=Lambda
> pharo "$IMAGE_NAME.image" --no-default-preferences eval --save \
>       "Metacello new baseline: '$BASELINE'; repository: 
> 'filetree://./PharoLambda/src <filetree://./PharoLambda/src>'; load."
> 
> As I tried that. The baseline of Lambda is then able to be loaded.
> 
> -- Pavel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-08-02 15:18 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> Ah, I think I’m starting to get closer to what I need…
> 
> So if I want to load in that last piece to enable more general remote loading 
> - how do I figure out how to do that? I’m trying to work out where the build 
> steps for building up the image (can I see them in Jenkins? It wasn’t clear 
> to me if I can look it up? Or the BaselineOfIDE was mentioned - looking there 
> I can see a few metacello and gofer packages - but then I guess I’m looking 
> for an easy Mcz I can use with the example below?
> 
> Or do I just load Metacello as a git submodule and then it will be on my 
> local filesystem to then bootstrap up?
> 
> I guess I’m trying to work out the best sustainable approach to getting to a 
> good server based image that has minimal tools and the ability to easily load 
> remote code for pre-req projects.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2017, at 07:05, Guillermo Polito <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you should be able to load an mcz in that image by doing:
>> 
>> (MCDirectoryRepository new directory: 'where-your-mcz-is')
>>     loadVersionFromFileNamed: 'Metacello-GitBasedRepository-Author.1.mcz') 
>> load.
>> 
>> Guille
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 2017-08-01 23:13 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> Hi Pavel - I tried it again and the problem is do with Metacello 
>> dependencies in your baseline.
>> 
>> The SUnit baseline doesn’t specify any additional dependencies to load (it 
>> just loads local packages), whereas my baseline that fails looks like this:
>> 
>> baseline: spec
>>      <baseline>
>> 
>>      spec for: #common do: [
>>              spec configuration: 'ZTimestamp' with: [
>>                      spec 
>>                              versionString: #stable;
>>                              repository: 'http://mc.stfx.eu/Neo 
>> <http://mc.stfx.eu/Neo>' ].
>>                      
>>              spec baseline: 'AWS' with: [    
>>                      spec repository: 
>> 'github://newapplesho/aws-sdk-smalltalk:v1.10/pharo-repository <>' ].
>>                                              
>>              spec 
>>                      package: 'Lambda' with: [ spec requires: {'ZTimestamp'. 
>> 'AWS'}].
>>                      
>>      ].              
>> 
>> 
>> The “spec configuration: ….” Specifications cause the error:
>> 
>> 25 UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #addTo:
>> 26 MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository:
>> 
>> If I remove those lines from my baseline above (as well the requires: 
>> reference to them) I can then successfully load my packages.
>> 
>> So is this something the minimal image should support (otherwise how do you 
>> load external packages into your image without checking them in locally?) OR 
>> is there something simple I can checkin and load locally to return that 
>> behaviour? (Personally I think it would make sense to allow remote loading - 
>> I’m guessing Pharo itself as a core has everything it needs - but if you 
>> want to do any experimentation on the core and need remote packages, you 
>> would hit this too - so it feels a bit limiting). 
>> 
>> The dependencies in th baseline are supported but the support for most of 
>> external repositories (like package Metacello-GitBasedRepository) is loaded 
>> at the end of bootstrapping process in BaselineOfIDE. We should check/solve 
>> dependencies and move it into the minimal Pharo. For now you can try to load 
>> it by yourself or work with already prepared local clones of required 
>> repositories.
>> 
>> -- Pavel
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2017, at 10:06, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-07-31 22:51 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>> I wasn’t clear on which image to retry - the 
>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Update-Step-3.2-Minimal/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Pharo-minimal-64.zip
>>>  
>>> <https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Update-Step-3.2-Minimal/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Pharo-minimal-64.zip>
>>>  one still shows as being last updated 7 days ago.
>>> 
>>> The 
>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/6.0-SysConf/job/Pharo-6.0-Step-04-01-ConfigurationOfMinimalPharo/
>>>  
>>> <https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/6.0-SysConf/job/Pharo-6.0-Step-04-01-ConfigurationOfMinimalPharo/>
>>>  one gives me a mismatch error: This interpreter (vers. 68021) cannot read 
>>> image file (vers. 6521).
>>> 
>>> The 
>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/7.0/job/70-Bootstrap-32bit-Conversion/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>  
>>> <https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/7.0/job/70-Bootstrap-32bit-Conversion/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/latest-minimal-64.zip>
>>>  one gives me a walkback when trying to run my install script :
>>> 
>>> 25 UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #addTo:
>>> 26 MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository:
>>> 27 createRepository
>>>   | repo |
>>>   repo := self project createRepository: self.
>>>   ^ MCRepositoryGroup default repositories
>>>     detect: [ :each | each = repo ]
>>>     ifNone: [ 
>>>       MCRepositoryGroup default addRepository: repo.
>>>       repo ] in MetacelloRepositorySpec>>createRepository
>>> 
>>> I think this is because the image doesn’t support Metacello? As in:
>>> Metacello new
>>>     repository: 'filetree://../src <>';
>>>     baseline: 'Lambda';
>>>     load.
>>> 
>>> How do you guys load things into the minimal images (I thought you used 
>>> Metacello - but maybe you do it some other way?)
>>> 
>>> I can use a big 6.1 image fine (as it has Metacello loaded) but I’d really 
>>> like a minimal solution - that can load in libraries like AWS S3, or XML 
>>> parsing etc. and it seems like I should be a good customer for kicking the 
>>> tires on all of this.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I checked the 64-bit Pharo 7 minimal image and loading of baseline (of 
>>> SUnit from pharo-project/pharo) works:
>>> 
>>> ./pharo Pharo7.0-minimal-64bit-b1625bf.image eval --save "Metacello new 
>>> baseline: 'SUnit'; repository: 'filetree://./pharo-core/src <>'; load."
>>>  
>>> ./pharo Pharo7.0-minimal-64bit-b1625bf.image eval "TestCase suite run"
>>> 
>>> Can you test it too?
>>> 
>>> -- Pavel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>    
>> Guille Polito
>> 
>> Research Engineer
>> French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr 
>> <http://www.cnrs.fr/>
>> 
>> 
>> Web: http://guillep.github.io <http://guillep.github.io/>
>> Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13 <tel:+33%206%2052%2070%2066%2013>
> 
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