Guillermo Polito wrote > but wait, I've just shown that more than 2/3s of them are not test > selectors...
Well, quit teasing us. :-) Show us the list (longest to shortest order). I agree with you that it is a code smell and you are right to be suspicious. I'm inclined to say that if the method name is a novella, the method is probably doing too much or the method name is trying to explain too much about the method's internals. > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Denis Kudriashov < > dionisiydk@ > > > wrote: > >> Which is actually shows that tests as methods are not really good idea. >> Tests are supposed to be documentation but with classic SUnit we have >> only >> two ways (classes and methods) to decompose them which is definitely not >> enough for docs. >> But ignore it. I am just thinking aloud :) >> >> 2017-08-16 13:47 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse < > stepharo.self@ > >: >> >>> I often use long selectors for tests :) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Guillermo Polito < >>> > guillermopolito@ >> wrote: >>> >>>> (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size > 50 ]) size >>>> "638" >>>> (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size > 50 and: [ e >>>> beginsWith: >>>> 'test' ] ]) size >>>> "200" >>>> >>>> Still 438 non test selectors. Some of them are class creation methods >>>> (#subclass:instanceVariables:...) >>>> >>>> I'm just saying this is a smell, wanted to share some of my catarsis >>>> :). >>>> >>>> Guille >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Nicolas Cellier < >>>> > nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@ >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Guile, >>>>> have you inspect-ed the list? >>>>> I wouldn't be surprise that these are whole sentence acting as >>>>> specification in unit TestCase, >>>>> like whenBrowserReceiveOpenItShouldReturnTheWindowMorph... >>>>> >>>>> 2017-08-16 3:51 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito@ > >: >>>>> >>>>>> #'thisIsAVeryLongSelectorAndIfYoureHereWeHaveOnly49ImagineIH >>>>>> aveToWriteAllThisToArriveTo87ThenThisTo100' >>>>>> >>>>>> (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size > 100 ]) size >>>>>> => 36 >>>>>> >>>>>> (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size between: 50 and: 100 >>>>>> ]) >>>>>> size >>>>>> => 653 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Guille Polito >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Research Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr* >>>>>> <http://www.cnrs.fr> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13 <+33%206%2052%2070%2066%2013> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Guille Polito >>>> >>>> >>>> Research Engineer >>>> >>>> French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr* >>>> <http://www.cnrs.fr> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> >>>> >>>> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13 <+33%206%2052%2070%2066%2013> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > > > > Guille Polito > > > Research Engineer > > French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr* > <http://www.cnrs.fr> > > > > *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> > > *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13 -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Ugly-smell-really-long-symbols-selectors-tp4961544p4961707.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.