Cool, let me know how it goes!

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> On 29 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ok vincent told me that he succeeded and we can use its example.
> We can also ask benoit how he extended renaku.
> I will set up a booklet.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2018, at 22:50, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok I will add your email next time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Stef.
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, please include my email in the recipients list. I’m 
>>>> committed to maintain the Rule infrastructure, but I rarely manage to read 
>>>> through Pharo dev. I was nice that Myroslava told me about this email.
>>> 
>>> Ok I will add your email next time.
>>> 
>>>> Secondly I suppose that you are working on Pharo 7, because Pharo 6 mostly 
>>>> follows the old approach.
>>> 
>>> I do not know since it was not on my machine but most probably pharo 70
>> 
>> If it is Pharo 6 then you can just follow the old smalllint strategy, but 
>> you may need to reset the cache.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One thing that can cause a rule not showing up is caching, and although it 
>>>> should be automatically invalidated upon the addition of a new rule, you 
>>>> can manually clear it by searching for “Renraku” in settings and pressing 
>>>> the “Reset rule cache” button.
>>> 
>>> Ahhhhhh this is what we suspected.
>>> 
>>>> You should not subclass RBTransformationRule, you should subclass 
>>>> ReNodeRewriteRule. In fact if you check, there are no subclasses of 
>>>> RBTransformationRule.
>>> 
>>> This is strange because I remember that ifNotNilDo was a subclass.
>>> But again is was on a machine with super small fonts :)
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now about documentation. I suspect that my IWST presentation and the 
>>>> Renraku paper (Thesis chapter) are not enough, but the problem is that 
>>>> nobody tried to create rules and give me a feedback about that so far. As 
>>>> you are adding new rules, I think that this is a nice opportunity to write 
>>>> some kind of a booklet, because rules are really powerful and we should 
>>>> share the knowledge of how to create them (and we should also simplify the 
>>>> creation process).
>>> 
>>> Yes I would love to have a booklet on that. Do you want to join effort?
>> 
>> Yes, but I need user experience. Because I already tried to document Renraku 
>> here and there but I don’t know what is not clear. Also I expect that 
>> Myroslava can join.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Right now there is a “Renraku Quality Rules” help group in the main Pharo 
>>>> help browser that provides a brief description of how to create rules and 
>>>> run them. I think that this is a good starting point because I tried to 
>>>> put there the essential information needed to start with rule creation.
>>> 
>>> Excellent we will read it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> P.S. what would be nice is to generate booklets from Pharo help, because I 
>>>> does not make sense to have 2 sources of documentation.
>>> 
>>> Yes we are working on Pillar and we will get there. Now a booklet for
>>> three or four pages of description is not worth.
>>> So may be the inverse is better. What we could do is to extend the
>>> help to display the pillar booklet inside the image. But slowing....
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> Uko
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Jan 2018, at 16:19, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi yuriy
>>>>> 
>>>>> We defined a new rule subclass of RBTransformationRule and we did not
>>>>> get why the rule
>>>>> was not taken into account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We put an halt in another class such as ifNotNilDo: in
>>>>> - initialize (is there a cache)?
>>>>> - checkMethod:
>>>>> 
>>>>> and it did not stop.
>>>>> We started to
>>>>>  to watch your ESUG videos
>>>>>  to read your PhD
>>>>> 
>>>>> but it did not help us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stef
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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