> On 15 Mar 2018, at 09:27, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 00:08, Cyril Ferlicot <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> On mer. 14 mars 2018 at 18:18, Marcus Denker <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> > On 9 Mar 2018, at 23:34, Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Additional portable versions would be nice too (based on a simple ZIP)
>> > instead of only the installable apps
>> >
>>
>> Is there a deeper reason for this? If I look at “other systems”, they manage
>> to have *one* download, *one* way of installing.
>> For me, offering *a lot* of possible different ways means that the user has
>> to choose without knowing why there is even the option to choose…
>>
>> The problem is that Pharo is different from other systems. When you install
>> eclipse, you'll use the installed eclipse for all your projects for a long
>> time.
>>
>> Pharo images are more like a "disposable". You'll not use the same Pharo
>> image for multiple big projects and you'll more easily throw away an image
>> to take a new one from time to time.
>>
>> Actually I think I download and delete around 5 images/day sometime.
>
> IMO this just strengthen Marcus argument :)
>
>> This complicate a little things because sometime you want to directly
>> download one image. Sometime you want to have one application to manage your
>> images (Pharo launcher)
>
> Why? You have launcher: you download all images you want (btw… I still
> believe launcher UI needs love, but one thing at a time ;) )
> And if you need more complex stuff, you always have the “other” section.
>
> but I side with Marcus here: we need ONE blessed way of manage pharo,
> otherwise is an un-managable mess.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
> ps: btw, we’ll need also
> - OBS for the launcher (to have linux packaging)
> - signing the launcher on mac (we already did this for the VM, we can do the
> same for launcher). And distribute it as dmg, not zip (a dmg is just a zip
> renamed so no problem here).
> - a windows installer
>
and I would love support for this: https://sparkle-project.org
<https://sparkle-project.org/> to keep the “Pharo” app always up-to-date.
Marcus
