yeah the guy (martin whatever) is a troll, if I remember correctly its the same dude we had on the reddit forum for Smalltalk that has been attacking Pharo with pure lies. He is a typical troll that blows off steam by annoying other people. I am with Stef with this one, the only way to win against a troll is silence. I had a very recent experience where the person in charge underestimated a troll, he overflown the mailing list with negative, many people took the bait and tried to have a civilized discussions with him, he drag it one for month until people started abandoning the community and the community essentially died.
I adviced them not to feed the troll but as in many other cases, people dont even listen. Pharo is far from perfect, but this is not a logical discussion , its pure troll tactic. Do not underestimate the power of a troll, it is more powerful than you can imagine and feed on politeness and rationality. Don't feed the troll. On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 8:13 PM p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> wrote: > interruptible.. yes! > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 19:10 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> Le 07/04/2018 à 17:48, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit : >> > Hi >> > >> > Here is a link to a report about their experience with Pharo: >> > https://gitlab.fit.cvut.cz/taibrmar/sokoban-using-bloc >> > >> > There definitely exist things that should be improved. It is a pity when >> > tiny “minor” issues leave such an unpleasant aftertaste. >> >> Some of them are, sadly, quite unacceptable, IMHO. >> >> I would really dream of a stable, correctly interruptible (i.e. a Cmd-. >> that really works), limited Pharo core. That would help development so >> significantly and allow more experiments. >> >> I solve that by making stuff that distance itself as much as possible >> from a lot of the Pharo stuff that evolves far too much, far too fast to >> be relied upon (widgets, graphics, editors), and I'm looking forward to >> building a limited(*) image with just and only the things I rely on. >> >> One of the thing I need is a CI that triggers both on my code releases >> and any Pharo update (including the stable ones) since even stable >> releases may change core APIs. >> >> > Anyway, there are lovers and haters of every language. >> >> That I can agree with :) >> >> > Some people even >> > give dislikes to videos on YouTube that show how veterinarians heal >> cats... >> > >> > All the best >> > Alex >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> (*) I did try with the minimal image, and the tools are clearly limiting. >> >> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 at 17:27, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:stepharo.s...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I tend to not care about people pissing on me via a pseudo. This is >> > too easy and too microscopic to have any value. >> > Thanks Philippe, Luke and Ben because you use your real names. >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Esteban Lorenzano >> > <esteba...@gmail.com <mailto:esteba...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > yesterday someone posted an article on HN about the Pharo MOOC >> > and there has >> > > been some negative posts there. >> > > I would like to call people who can have the time to answer there >> > and help >> > > to explain better and also contribute to contest that FUD >> > someones (we know >> > > who they are… sames as always) are spreading. >> > > >> > > here the link : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16754872 >> > > >> > > (this is not loosing time, people searching for Pharo will likely >> > see this >> > > kind of messages… at least we need to offer our point of view) >> > > >> > > cheers! >> > > Esteban >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Alex >> >> >>