>   - For those that "get it" they try to do it with right click (Of course,
it looks like a context menu!) and that does not work

I thought that this was due to be swapped for Pharo 7? Was that idea
scraped?

Peter

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Alistair Grant <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Guille & Cyril,
>
> On 1 June 2018 at 14:22, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > With Guille we are trying to improve the usability of the WorldMenu.
> >
> > The world menu is by large un-intuitive:
> >  - Users are not used to click on a background to open a menu
> >  - For those that "get it" they try to do it with right click (Of
> > course, it looks like a context menu!) and that does not work
> >
> > Since some decades now the default way to display a menu in applications
> > is to have a bar at the top of the windows. We should change that world
> > menu by a menu bar like any application. That will lower the entrance
> > barrier to new users, at the cost of having to move the cursor to the
> > top to look for the menu...
> >
> > You can find here a PR that add the WorldMenu as a top bar to Pharo and
> > reorganize it:
> >
> > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1470
> >
> > See screen in the PR.
> >
> > It still have room for improvements but we think it's stable enough for
> > integration in Pharo.
> >
> > Missing features:
> > - What do we do when Pharo is not wide enough?
> > - What to do when a window is dragged behind?
> > - Make it parametrizable to allow users to build a bar with their own
> > menu builder
> > - Add shortcuts to open the menu windows like (maybe)
> > - Update it when we change the font size (this is a general Pharo
> problem)
> >
> > Feedback is welcome.
>
> Thanks for this.  Along with being able to maximise windows
> completely, making the task-bar distinct at the bottom, these are
> great changes.
>
> Instead of a menu bar at the top, which takes quite a bit of space,
> and as mentioned may not fit on a small screen (especially if
> applications add entries), how about a "Start" button in the task-bar
> that pops up the menu a-la Windows?  I'm not tied to the name "Start",
> it could just be an earth icon, which would save space.   (This is
> actually how I interpreted Cyril's original suggestion)
>
> Cheers,
> Alistair
>
>
>
> > Related issue:
> > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22038/Replace-World-Menu-by-Menu-bar
> >
> > Guille & Cyril
> >
> > --
> > Cyril Ferlicot
> > https://ferlicot.fr
> >
>
>

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