> On 30 Sep 2018, at 11:00, Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi,
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>> On 29 Sep 2018, at 14:39, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> So the future for Pharo is Iceberg/git/tonel and that is fine.
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>> My question however is: if I convert my external libraries to this new
>> format, what is the reach of this new technology ? Can people still load
>> code in older versions of Pharo ? I think 6.x is no problem, but what about
>> earlier versions ? What about other Smalltalk implementations ? What is the
>> official answer here ?
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> In absence of Iceberg, Tonel can be used as any other MCRepository. You can
> save and read your packages as it would be with a “metadataless filetree”.
> That means, in Pharo without iceberg you need to save/read from your cloned
> repository.
> Saving to your cloned repository will write files to disk. Which means you
> need to go there and do a regular git commit/push cycle.
>
> While this is annoying compared with the usage of Iceberg, is perfectly
> doable: it is the same as while using metadataless filetree.
>
> Tonel is tested to work up to Pharo 3. Older Pharos may work (there is no
> reason why not) but maybe some minor adjustments are needed.
>
> I designed Tonel to be easily portable. I didn’t used a lot of Pharo elements
> that would have done my life a lot easier (like using RBParser instead
> parsing manual). This way other dialects can take it and make it work. Now,
> making it work, is a problem of other dialects users (I’m willing to help,
> but that work will fall in other persons).
> I know it is already ported to Gemstone and it was being ported to Squeak.
>
>> A second question: suppose a repo is converted, is then still possible to
>> copy a version over to an old MC repo ? Just to keep it in sync.
>
> You can save your packages as you want.
> You can save a package with Iceberg and then read it with Monticello.,
> And viceversa.
> Now, it you want to "transfer” the history from git to an mcz, you will need
> to do some migration tool.
>
> Esteban
Thank you Esteban, for the explanation and for the implementation, that all
sounds really good.
Iceberg has been very stable for me this past week, great work.
>> Thx,
>>
>> Sven
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