> 
> 
> Hi Esteban,
> 
> This is fantastic! We are eager to investigate how Roassal3 can run in an 
> external window.

this will possible even without GTK3 :)

Stef

> 
> Alexandre
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 6:08 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> People that assisted to Pharo Days 2019 (or that follow my twitter account) 
>> already know this, but it needs to be formally announced: 
>> 
>> We are working on Spec 2.0, and it will provide not just the classic Morphic 
>> bindings but also a new option for developers: Gtk3 bindings!
>> 
>> Why we want a Spec 2.0 with different backends?
>> 
>> There are reasons that converged to decide us to make it:
>> 
>>      • First, to provide a validated abstract Spec 2.0 that can be used with 
>> different backends, preparing Pharo to be able to switch backends without 
>> needing to recreate the full IDE from scratch each time (a problem we have 
>> partially now in our way to deprecate Morphic).
>>      • Second, because we receive from different sources the requirement of 
>> having the possibility of developing real native-looking desktop 
>> applications. Yes, in moment where people talk about the cloud, SaaS and 
>> web-applications as the "next big thing" (something that is been declared 
>> since years, by the way), we believe is important to provide this, for two 
>> big reasons: 
>>              • Because there is still an important place for desktop 
>> applications market and most medium-size to big business still require them.
>>              • Because Pharo itself is a desktop application! (And we need 
>> to provide the best experience possible on it).
>> 
>> For us, this is a fundamental step to continue improving Pharo itself, and 
>> it matches also the work we are doing on going real-headless:  Pharo users 
>> will be able to start the Morphic world, a Gtk application or the next 
>> backend to come.
>> 
>> Why Gtk3?
>> 
>> There are some other important players in the "native widgets scene", so why 
>> we choose Gtk3? 
>> 
>> Again, several reasons  were taken into account: 
>> 
>>      • Gtk3 is cross platform. Yes, technically is just "native" in linux, 
>> but it works on Windows and macOS too. 
>>      • It is very mature and popular.
>>      • It is made in plain C.
>> 
>> Next step: tool migration
>> 
>> The only way to know if you have covered what is needed is actually taking 
>> real-life use cases and implementing them. We have a list of tools that 
>> needs to be migrated and we are starting from them: 
>> 
>>      • Old GT tools will be replaced by new Spec tools (while preserving its 
>> power).
>>      • Calypso UI needs to be rewritten in Spec 2.0 (it is in plain Morphic 
>> now).
>>      • Pharo launcher as a standalone application is a good example of what 
>> you can do with the Gtk3 bindings.
>> 
>> And that's it. Pharo 8.0 will come with Spec 2.0 and users will be able to 
>> benefit of it immediately :)
>> 
>> 
>> A small screenshot of the new Inspector (WIP): 
>> 
>> <Screenshot 2019-04-18 at 12.07.16.png>
>> 
>> Esteban
> 
> 
> 
> 

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