Hi Esteban, > This comes really on time for me, I decided to rewrite to small sites I have > using Jekyll, and as read all their tutorials I thought even of having a > Jekyllst variation, that uses the Jekyll directories and other conventions, > but uses Smalltalk as its engine. Of course this is far reached given my real > availability these days, that's lower than usual.
Cool anyway if that’s something that interest you too. What do you think of https://gohugo.io <https://gohugo.io/> ? Themes are pretty cool https://themes.gohugo.io <https://themes.gohugo.io/> > > However I'd like to be part of conversations around this, and eventually > contribute to it, because I already started playing with Jekyll (and Gatsby > as well). Perfect :) This is not urgent but I need to put 2 websites online for September (simple ones). For now, I’m trying around. Summer will be perfect for me to work on such project. Cheers, Cédrick > > Regards, > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:15 AM Cédrick Béler <cdric...@gmail.com > <mailto:cdric...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi there, > > This post is just to talk about one side project I’m exploring and interested > in from a long time. I think it may interest other people here. > > I’d like to have powerful (static based) web site so hosting is really cheap > (even free) and hassle free. I’ve my own server for years, it is cheap and > simple but, of course, it needs some maintenance (linux update, nginx > scripts, …) even if tools are the simplest I’ve found. > > Recently thanks to student projects ;-), I found some time to learn what I > find is a wonderful solution. This solution is to use GitHub DSCM, GitHub > Pages and Jekyll (a ruby static site generator that is natively integrated) > all together. > https://jekyllrb.com <https://jekyllrb.com/> > > The beauty is that you can edit the site straight on GitHub. We get the power > of version system and hosting for free… > It literally is a CMS and the cheapest and reliable that I know of (grav > might be another option). > > Of course, there are some « dynamic » content possibilities too (otherwise > GitHub Pages is enough) > - blog posts are natively generated through new files according to a name > convention. > - there are plugins too (but you have to watch for compatibility in GitHub). > > Dealing with forms and comments is possible > - solutions that are hosted on a third-party. Solution like Discus or > formspree, … (that’s a NO GO to me) > - web service integration that you can host (note that form spree is on > GitHub too https://github.com/formspree/formspree > <https://github.com/formspree/formspree>) > > This last point is where I’d like Pharo (Zinc, Iceberg) to be integrated. > Again we could imagine a web service system based on Zinc. I could manage > form submissions that way and everything I’d like but it may end up complex. > Do I need a database ? Do I need to store information and therefore manage > the underlying architecture. If it crash, I want only the endpoint to be not > available but the whole site still working. > > An in between elegant solution os to use git for what it’s good at > (versioning collaboratively through PR, and also reliable hosting in classic > platforms). > > The idea is to use the PR mechanisms to submit stuff like blog comments (note > that you have a free moderation system). > This is actually not limited to comments but all kinds of possible > interaction… > > This way is (to me) better in terms of infrastructure management. Such a > service also needs to be available (and maintained) but this is a very > minimalist machinery (hanling POST request service only - no real content > management as deferred to github). And again, a fail safe version (for the > last version of the generated pages). > > Staticman (https://staticman.net <https://staticman.net/>) is a nice node > application that allows to do this. It’s possible to host the service too. > <GraphiqueCollé-1.png> > > I can use this node app of course, but I believe we could have quite easily > such an application in Pharo with Zinc. > I also wonder if we could use Iceberg to deal with this information straight > in a pharo image (that’d be cherry on the cake). > The super cherry of the cake would be pharo core and lib documentation, demos > (you can have one gihub page by organization and/or users - in paid plans, > you can have more for private stuff)… One place, one process to contribute, > either for code or documentation. > > Anyway, I have no real question except than asking for feedback and also to > know if some people are interested in such project. > > Cheers, > > Cédrick > > nb: my hidden goal is to provide web site for people, unipersonal and small > organizations. So you know, they pay for the service of creation, but then > they own it and can do whatever they like. Of course we can also offer paid > services like managing dynamic information content. More than comments, I’d > like to be able to deal with stuff like orders, facturation, even meeting > planning through ics versioned files, etc. > This really is something I’d like to be able to provide soon (less than 1 yr > time - simplest web site with contact form and comments at least). It might > become something more serious the future... > >
