The static version of StHub seems to always assume the client is Pharo, while 
the dynamic version used format=raw (which non-Pharo implementation did not 
include in their request for the listing) to send the Pharo specific response 
only then.

> On 27 Aug 2020, at 23:34, Dale Henrichs <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Depends upon how old that optimized code is ... as little as a 15 days ago, 
> the last time my travis cron job ran successfully[1], the pharo code 
> presumably was handling html page returns ... I'm pretty certain I haven't 
> touched the Monticello HTTP handling code for nearly a decade:)
> 
> Dale
> 
> [1] https://travis-ci.org/github/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home/builds/717364651
> 
> On 8/27/20 1:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>> Hmm, this is going to be a hard one.
>> 
>> SmalltalkHub got optimised in Pharo, consider
>> 
>> MCHttpRepository>>#parseFileNamesFromStream: aStream
>>      | names fullName |
>>      names := OrderedCollection new.
>>      [aStream atEnd] whileFalse:
>>              [[aStream upTo: $<. {$a. $A. nil} includes: aStream next] 
>> whileFalse.
>>              aStream upTo: $".
>>              aStream atEnd ifFalse: [
>>                      fullName := aStream upTo: $".
>>                      names add: fullName urlDecoded ]].
>>      ^ names
>> 
>> vs.
>> 
>> MCSmalltalkHubRepository>>#parseFileNamesFromStream: aNewLineDelimitedString
>>      ^ aNewLineDelimitedString
>>              ifNil: [ ^ OrderedCollection new ]
>>              ifNotNil: [ aNewLineDelimitedString substrings: String crlf ]
>> 
>> In the old server code there was probably a way to detect what kind of 
>> client was making the request to determine how to respond. I am not sure a 
>> static server can do that (it is the format=raw query parameter, see 
>> MCSmalltalkHubRepository>>#loadAllFileNames). I also believe GZIP compressed 
>> files were returned in the optimised case.
>> 
>> BTW, there exists code to generate the listing in
>> 
>> ZnMonticelloRepository>>#repositoryListing
>>      ^ ZnHtmlOutputStream streamContents: [ :html |
>>              html page: 'Monticello Repository' do: [
>>                      html tag: #ul do: [
>>                              self mczEntries do: [ :each |
>>                                      html tag: #li do: [
>>                                              html
>>                                                      tag: #a
>>                                                      attributes: { #href. 
>> each }
>>                                                      with: each ] ] ] ] ]
>> 
>> Sven
>> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2020, at 22:29, Dale Henrichs <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My guess is lies in the difference in the payload returned.
>>> 
>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/MooseSQL/ produces a html page:
>>> 
>>> <pnioijaecacnfagp.png>
>>> 
>>> and the static smalltalkhub site does not:
>>> 
>>> <lepkhlgeiolajoki.png>
>>> 
>>> I think that all of the monticello web sites return an html web page 
>>> listing of packages and presumably the static site should produce html  ... 
>>> I'm sure that the dynamic version of smalltalkhub produced html pages as 
>>> well and for now we are caught between a rock and a hard place ... the 
>>> dynamic site is flakey and the static site breaks existing Monticello 
>>> package list reading code:)
>>> 
>>> Dale
>>> 
>>> On 8/27/20 1:04 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
>>>> As I've started digging around, I have found that this url[1] does produce 
>>>> the correct list of mcz files in the browser, but is currently failing to 
>>>> produce any list at all in GLASS ... so there is a different mystery ... 
>>>> other than the fact that this url[1] was working prior(?) to the 
>>>> switchover (if in fact the DNS has propagated to all the right spots) and 
>>>> has been working for all of the other http Monticello repositories for 
>>>> over a decade:)
>>>> 
>>>> I will continue digging ...
>>>> 
>>>> Dale
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside30LGPL/main
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/27/20 12:48 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
>>>>> Christophe,
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a new(?) problem that we are having that has been reported in 
>>>>> this thread on the GLASS list[1] where I am able to successfully download 
>>>>> an mcz file [2], but get a `Not Found` error when I try to list the mcz 
>>>>> files in a project[3]. The missing mcz list is consistent with the failed 
>>>>> builds that I am now seeing on travis [4] and that are being reported by 
>>>>> Brodbeck[1]. I have yet to get to a point where I can debug the problems 
>>>>> directly and determine what is actually going on and of course I can't 
>>>>> tell if these are the results of slow DNS propagation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case [2][3], the list of file shows up on the dynamic(?) site:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <popmbnhcnehhanno.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> and can be downloaded by pressing the download for the selected mcz file, 
>>>>> but the missing list of packages[3] is likely to be the root cause of the 
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dale
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] 
>>>>> http://forum.world.st/SmalltalkHub-packages-not-accessible-tt5120932.html
>>>>> [2] 
>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside30LGPL/main/Seaside-Swazoo-jf.19.mcz
>>>>> [3] http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside30LGPL
>>>>> [4] 
>>>>> https://travis-ci.org/github/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home/jobs/721523221#L2411
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/27/20 5:36 AM, Christophe Demarey wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dale,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry, I did not see your message before.
>>>>>> Yesterday, I switched smalltalkhub to the static version (a bit earlier 
>>>>>> than announced) to avoid frequent downtimes we had with smalltalkhub.
>>>>>> I did not measure but downloads should now be faster and reliable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do not hesitate to ping if you have any problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 26 août 2020 à 18:12, Dale Henrichs 
>>>>>>> <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I haven't see any email response, but today (after two days of 
>>>>>>> brokenness), 
>>>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dkh/metacello/main/Metacello-Base-dkh.109.mcz
>>>>>>>  is now downloading successfully, so THANK YOU, to whoever fixed the 
>>>>>>> problem!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dale
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/25/20 9:02 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
>>>>>>>> SmalltalkHub mcz downloads are broken ... looks like a mongo server 
>>>>>>>> has gone down? .... I ran into this problem running production tests 
>>>>>>>> yesterday and today I find that while the smalltalkhub site is up, I 
>>>>>>>> cannot download an mcz file, using this url: 
>>>>>>>> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dkh/metacello/main/Metacello-Base-dkh.109.mcz.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you are not going to keep the current smalltalkhub site functional, 
>>>>>>>> why don't you switch to the static site and give those of us who 
>>>>>>>> DEPEND upon static access to mcz files a reliable site to connect to 
>>>>>>>> ... I have plans to move completely away from mcz files, but I didn't 
>>>>>>>> plan on doing that this week ... and frankly I don't have the cycles 
>>>>>>>> to do that ... right now ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here's a screenshot of a manual login and navigation to the mcz file 
>>>>>>>> that is failing to download:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <jchancldefkbdajd.png>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And when I press the `Download .mcz` button, I get the following 
>>>>>>>> "response" after a delay:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <lnonccpgaamnnobg.png>
>>>>>>>> 
>> 
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