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From: "Bill Schwab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: June 1, 2008 3:27:45 PM CEDT
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Discussion about Nile in Pharo

Damien,

That is a great next step. Dumb question: do I already have an account by virtue of being on the list, or do I need to create one?

Your rewrite to cope with #on: is fascinating, but I continue to wonder whether it is necessary. In fact, I _think_ I would prefer to rename the Nile classes (either up front or probably post-install via the RB) to be generic. While I too prefer idioms such as Array writeStream and aCollection readStream, #on: is perfectly ok, though clumsy. What we should do depends on your goal, and of course on what works best.

Changing to Nile via #readStream and #writeStream has its advantages, but the rewrite has made me greedy :) I am thinking of something like the following:

(1) prepare the image by renaming methods (#next -> #nextOrNil:, #next -> #nextAvailable:) to reflect current silently-truncating semantics

(2) add the silent truncating methods to Nile; add #on: methods to Nile, including comments referencing the shortcut methods

(3) change Nile's #next, #next: to raise errors; noting that after (1), the image will call the truncating methods, and only new code will see the errors

(4) either Smalltalk at:#ReadStream put:NSReadStream, etc., or perhaps better yet just ask the RB to rename the Nile classes, so that one codes in terms of ReadStream, WriteStream, catches EndOfStream. We can provide a defined set of RB steps that anyone can use in a throw-away image to prepare code that we did not fix for them; it should basically be step (1).

Comments? If you at all agree, feel free to edit and put it on the Wiki while I figure out how to access it.

Bill




Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
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"Damien Cassou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/01/08 6:30 AM >>>
Hi Bill,

I writing a wiki page where I explain what we can do to slowly install Nile:
https://gforge.inria.fr/plugins/wiki/index.php?refs=NileInstallation&id=1299&type=g

You can help me with the redaction.

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)




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