On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 10:44 +0200, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
> UTF input (in VM and image) support in Pharo (or Squeak) is a must !
> 
What do you mean? There is support for UTF-8 and UTF-16 in the image.
The image itself changed the internal character format to a modified
Unicode (4 Bytes) Character. I assume that you don't need any conversion
for UTF-32. 

The problem is not the support but to know what encoding the unicode
has. If you have a Byte-Order-Mark this can be easy. Otherwise there is
no way around than to transmit a character encoding along with the data
or to use a convention for it. The etoys stuff seems like it can changes
the input to something unicode but this is a convention that is manually
adjusted.

Do I understand something wrong?

Norbert
> 2008/7/9 Stéphane Ducasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: July 9, 2008 12:20:52 AM CEDT
> >> To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
> >> about Squeak." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [Newbies] UTF support in Linux?
> >> Reply-To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic
> >> questions about Squeak." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 08.07.2008 um 23:09 schrieb smith02243:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> In the Linux VM, when I try to input, via paste or the right alt
> >>> combination, non-ascii characters, like 'ö' or 'é' for example, Squeak
> >>> merely shows 'o?' or 'e?' I researched into this and accordingly chose a
> >>> font that supports UTF-8 and set the locale and VM command line options
> >>> appropriately:
> >>>
> >>> export LC_CTYPE="en_IE.UTF-8"
> >>> locale-gen en_IE.UTF-8
> >>> (...which claims that locale is upto date...)
> >>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales
> >>> (...which outputs en_IE.UTF-8... done among other things....)
> >>> squeak -encoding UTF-8 -textenc UTF-8 -pathenc UTF-8
> >>> Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image
> >>>
> >>> Now when I try to input the aforementioned characters I encounter a debug
> >>> message: "Error subscript is out of bound."
> >>>
> >>> However, I have set Squeak's language to Spanish and then German, and the
> >>> characters display perfectly well in the menus. Although, the same cannot
> >>> be
> >>> said for the any files with non-ascii characters in the file dialogue.
> >>> So,
> >>> it seems it's an input problem.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone with any ideas? Thanks.
> >>
> >> This has only been addressed recently, and may not have found its way into
> >> a release yet.
> >>
> >> You need the very latest Squeak VM (3.10-1 at least). It supports Unicode
> >> keyboard events (which are passed to the image as UTF32).
> >>
> >> To make use of these events your image needs to be using
> >> UTF32InputInterpreter. Evaluate
> >>
> >> ActiveHand keyboardInterpreter
> >>
> >> to see the currently used one. It can be changed by patching
> >> Latin1Environment class>>inputInterpreterClass.
> >>
> >> I don't know if this is in any official release yet, or scheduled for one.
> >>
> >> Some relevant change sets from the Etoys image seem to be
> >>
> >> http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1713UnicodeInput1-yo.cs
> >> http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1714UnicodeInput2-yo.cs
> >> http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1925unixLatin1Input-yo.cs
> >> http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1935unicodeFallback-bf.cs
> >>
> >> - Bert -
> >>
> >>
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