On Jul 19, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:

Stef,

The streams are a mess, and the more I work with them, the more I
understand the desire to replace them with Nile.  For now, I am simply
inserting some methods that behave well (work when they should, raise
errors when they should) to allow me to begin doing some real work.

So if you can I would suggest you to use Nile and to enhance it.
We should not try to fix too much Stream.

My view is that I can always add helper classes and methods as needed.
Whether that gets around fragile design (#nextOne) or is a one-place fix
for the myriad times I open a file, it can always be rewritten to work
with whatever we create.

URIs make sense.  I have never been happy with the ways I split and
combine paths, so those things will have to be rewritten, especially
since they are Windows-specific.

Mike showed me the network cleaning he did. But we got problem to export
and load it again (since the system needed itsefl to load it).
Hence my remark on atomic loading.

Stef


Bill



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On Jul 18, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:

Stef,

I do not doubt that the image is littered with such problems.  On
several occasions, I lost 10-15 minutes tracking down errors that
resulted from unopened files.  It is all a continuation of my streams
"rant" (a well-intentioned one, of course).

Meaning no disrespect to the milestones (in particular, streams being
slated for the future), I have undertaken an effort similar to what
you
propose: putting an end to silent failures and lack of protection.
As a
streams addict, I need stable semantics, and have thus embarked on my
#nextOne, #nextMany:, etc. solution to reaching that goal.  It also
became clear that FileStream was quite unfriendly, so I started adding
Dolphin-compatible methods, at least to a point.  My primary goal is
to
have errors arise when appropriate vs. waiting for
potentially/apparently disconnected collateral damage to occur.

I have the impression that FileStream should be patched but also
just rewritten from scratch. I was discussing with mike about the use of
URI in sophie. He told me that they got a really nice solution which
was offering
cross platform real portability

Dolphin's semantics will not be completely appropriate for Squeak,
because there are OS (in)dependencies to consider.  I want that to
work
well so I can treat my Redmond allergy.

I urge Smalltalkers to avoid #next and #next: like the plague, but one
could always use my changes and ignore the replacements.  A very
incomplete but gradually evolving change set is available on request.

ok good to know.


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